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Wed, 07 Dec 2011 #1
Thumb_tampura ganesan balachandran India 423 posts in this forum Offline

just would like to know.

We are watching, not waiting, not expecting anything to happen but watching without end. JK

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Thu, 15 Dec 2011 #2
Thumb_avatar max greene United States 52 posts in this forum Offline

ganesan balachandran wrote:
have we perceived the action of intelligence

We do better than that, Ganesan. We ARE intelligence and action. We are alive, NOW, in the present moment. The present moment is the only condition for living, intelligence and action. It is impossible for these to take place either in the past or in the future.

The present moment is unity. As living beings we are one with love, intelligence and action.

That which is not intelligence and action is the self, which is the body/brain/mind. The self is the human, the existent, the lifeless, mechanical and re-actionary part of the human being. It is not at all of the present moment, NOW. It is the past.

max

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Fri, 16 Dec 2011 #3
Thumb_tampura ganesan balachandran India 423 posts in this forum Offline

max greene wrote:
We do better than that, Ganesan.

No doubt. are we perceiving the present or have we perceived the present completely once at least.
gb

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Fri, 16 Dec 2011 #4
Thumb_tampura ganesan balachandran India 423 posts in this forum Offline

max greene wrote:
That which is not intelligence and action is the self, which is the body/brain/mind. The self is the human, the existent, the lifeless, mechanical and re-actionary part of the human being. It is not at all of the present moment, NOW. It is the past.

clarifying soma (delight of existence), when you are sated with waters your juice runs through the sieve made of wool. Polished by the poets, Soma who brings ecstacy, be sweet for Indra to drink.

Thank you.
gb

....perceived the action of intelligence once....

Drop of soma(delight of existence) flow for indra.
gb

We are watching, not waiting, not expecting anything to happen but watching without end. JK

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Fri, 16 Dec 2011 #5
Thumb_avatar max greene United States 52 posts in this forum Offline

ganesan balachandran wrote:
No doubt. are we perceiving the present or have we perceived the present completely once at least.

The self (body/brain/mind) cannot perceive the present. The present is action, or creation -- they are the same. The self can only observe, and be aware of, that which has been created. The present creates; the self observes the created, and remembers this as image, either clearly or as distorted through the filter of the "I."

Krishnamurti said that the observer is the observed, and for this to be true, the psychological "I" must be absent. Without the "I," there is no sense of separation with the observed. This condition is the best that the self can do. The self observes without the psychological "I," and so it sees clearly what has been created by/in the present moment.

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Sat, 17 Dec 2011 #6
Thumb_tampura ganesan balachandran India 423 posts in this forum Offline

Oh! Lord you are drinking the fountain of life. regards.
gb

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Fri, 30 Dec 2011 #7
Thumb_deleted_user_med Peng Shu Tse United Kingdom 206 posts in this forum ACCOUNT DELETED

Dear Ganesan,

I would ask, have we perceived that the universe in which we are situated and of which we are an integral species, is itself an act of intelligence?

If we are of that then we are that.

Intelligence is not something foreign . . . but it takes some unusual channels in us. Oh to be simple!

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Tue, 10 Jan 2012 #8
Thumb_picture0044 Daniel Dan France 104 posts in this forum Online

Hello Ganesan....

The action of intelligence , if intelligence is Goodness then yes I-many have been in the position to be within a sort of energy that I could call intelligence..and I insist to say that many people have been in this situation of course.
It has a quality of no suffering , no comparison, and if I may : all is equal.... then for the rest of it words are too mean...

in this situation there is no questioning of any meaning about life , as this question is only asked by a suffering mind..

then what ? there is obviously need for more of it....as intellectual capacities have no intelligence but cleverness.I keep thinking so far that the less obvious way is the first step , let us be disturb which is quite impossible for the normal mind, this is going to provoke some "opening" of the all mind ????? into this "intelligence ???

cheers

dan.

Dan.

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Tue, 10 Jan 2012 #9
Thumb_tampura ganesan balachandran India 423 posts in this forum Offline

Dan Mohad Dib wrote:
The action of intelligence

I don't mean the intellectual intelligence

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Tue, 10 Jan 2012 #10
Thumb_picture0044 Daniel Dan France 104 posts in this forum Online

ganesan balachandran wrote:

Dan Mohad Dib wrote:
The action of intelligence

gb : I don't mean the intellectual intelligence.

yes gb I meant that too..there is no intellectual intelligence for me but clever capacities anyway...right/wrong?

Dan.

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Tue, 10 Jan 2012 #11
Thumb_tampura ganesan balachandran India 423 posts in this forum Offline

Dan Mohad Dib wrote:
but clever capacities anyway...right/wrong?

Intelligence uses it.
gb

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