The human race will become extinct unless it leaves Earth and colonises space within the next two centuries, according to Prof Stephen Hawking, the world's most famous astrophysicist.

In an interview with the portal 'Big Think', professor Hawking has said he's an "optimist" but the next few hundred years had to be negotiated carefully if the human race is to survive.

He said, "I see great danger for the human race. There have been a number of times in the past when survival has been a question of touch and go. The Cuban missile crisis in 1963 is one of these. The frequency of such occasions is likely to increase in the future. We shall need great care and judgment to negotiate them all successfully. But I am an optimist. If we can avoid disaster for the next two centuries our species should be safe as we spread into space."

Professor Hawking has warned that mankind was entering "an increasingly dangerous period of our history".

Are we continuing the wrong turn ? gb

We are watching, not waiting, not expecting anything to happen but watching without end. JK

ganesan balachandran wrote:
Are we continuing the wrong turn ?

gb,

Most times I can't see beyond the hour, honest. If I can get thru an hour, I feel great. Tomorrow, to me, often seems so so so far away that I don't think about it till tomorrow morning. How can I, so small and tiny a brain, look ahead 200 years? It would overwhelm me....

You seek predictive validity. The truth is, a meteor can come hit us tomorrow, and all that planning etc would be useless....

The fear of death seems the greatest in people who have been denied a the right to have a healthy life, or for those who have had to struggle for survival. The tenacity with which they have had to cling to life and master its adversities reveal themselves in their vocation, their research, their flights of fancy, their imaginations. It becomes their way of life.

Stephen Hawkin's psyche compensated for his disability thru his work on space, and time....in actuality, his attempts to seek immortality (flights of fantasy) and his escape into space (vocation) are his compensations for his limitations of his body. If you see the symbolism in all this, you will understand his work, his strivings, and the reasons why he does what he does, and says what he says...you'll find a deeper meaning hidden behind his work, his lifestyle, his comments....all arise from the need to overcome the limitations of his existence.

I own every book of Stephen Hawkins btw...what a great mind!

For us, who do not have to compensate for that confinement, those that are given the luxury of being complete humans, we say "this moment is all that counts"....and tomorrow, its ok if we die! We have lived, so we can allow ourselves to die. An unlived life like his....you can see he doesn't want to die...

Scarlett O Hara became my role model with her "I'll think about it tomorrow!" And hence, I can empty out my brain at least for today...If Stephen Hawkin emptied out his brain, there would be terror for survival, as any minute life could be taken away from him thru a minor accident...hence his "compulsive" nature, and career...and the need to survive by escaping to a different planet...

200 years? Sheesh!

PS: If you understand what a person is trying to achieve thru his work, and what he is trying to say, given his own experiences with life, then you can choose what in his work, applies to your life, and what does not.

Analyzed, yet thoroughly confused - The more I learn, the less I know

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Madhu Sameer wrote:
And hence, I can empty out my brain at least for today...

Professor Hawking has warned that mankind was entering "an increasingly dangerous period of our history".
The human race will become extinct unless it leaves Earth and colonises space within the next two centuries. I am just pointing out the attitude.
gb

We are watching, not waiting, not expecting anything to happen but watching without end. JK

Madhu Sameer wrote:
then you can choose what in his work, applies to your life, and what does not.

yes.
gb

We are watching, not waiting, not expecting anything to happen but watching without end. JK

ganesan balachandran wrote:
The human race will become extinct unless it leaves Earth and colonises space within the next two centuries. I am just pointing out the attitude. gb

Didn't the sages say the same thousands of year ago - the kalyug will end it all....so perhaps Hawkins was unconsciously emphasizing the wisdom of the sages...

Analyzed, yet thoroughly confused - The more I learn, the less I know

Madhu Sameer wrote:
the kalyug will end it all

They misunderstood veda. There is nothing of that sort in Veda.
gb

We are watching, not waiting, not expecting anything to happen but watching without end. JK

ganesan balachandran wrote:
Professor Hawking has warned that mankind was entering "an increasingly dangerous period of our history".

But wait, why the close attention paid, to what an expert in "astro physics" has to say about human relation? Is he an expert there? his solution, to export human insanity, to some other environment, to spoil, shows that no, there is no correlation between expert-ism in a field where authority is a necessary phenomenon, and where it is not.

Madhu Sameer wrote:
Didn't the sages say the same thousands of year ago

No, what they said was, "I hope humanity can climb to a higher plane, we really need softer toilet paper!".

Randal Shacklett wrote:
But wait, why the close attention paid, to what an expert in "astro physics" has to say about human relation?

Are we not seeing this. but we have to be dangerous to the wrong turn is our responsibility.
gb

We are watching, not waiting, not expecting anything to happen but watching without end. JK

ganesan balachandran wrote:
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Offline Randal Shacklett wrote:
But wait, why the close attention paid, to what an expert in "astro physics" has to say about human relation?
Are we not seeing this. but we have to be dangerous to the wrong turn is our responsibility. gb

Righto, I was just throwing out my opinion, that's all.

Madhu Sameer wrote:
the kalyug will end it all.

It is going to end (the psychological kaliyuga)with transformation from the messages of JK. Sure...
gb.
Don't call me a sage then.

We are watching, not waiting, not expecting anything to happen but watching without end. JK

This post was last updated by ganesan balachandran Sat, 14 Aug 2010.

Randal Shacklett wrote:
his solution, to export human insanity, to some other environment, to spoil, shows that no, there is no correlation between expert-ism in a field where authority is a necessary phenomenon, and where it is not.

Hey Randy, I think it's a great idea. Why have all that insanity stuff in my own back yard? Besides, we are only partly insane. There are some good bits too.

Like . . . I don't know . . . ice-hockey? Betya could have a good game on Pluto!

What are you waiting for?

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ganesan balachandran wrote:
The human race will become extinct unless it leaves Earth and colonises space within the next two centuries

I heard the world would end in 2012, according to Mayan prophesy. I need to market my house soon 'cos prices are sure going to drop after that!

What are you waiting for?

Seriously though, why colon ize space? There must be some decent planets out there, so why space. What would we eat? I'd go for colonizing the planets. Leave space alone.

How come all these words keep coming up . . . 'colon'ize, 'anal'ysis, the'rapist'? You break them down and they're a wee bit . . . tacky.

One thing for sure, we can't destroy the planet, just our own basis for continued survival on it, along with a few other insubstantial species.

What is the point of the question Gani? Hit me with it!

What are you waiting for?

Paul Davidson wrote:
Like . . . I don't know . . . ice-hockey? Betya could have a good game on Pluto!

Ha-ha-ha, frozen puck syndrome!

ganesan balachandran wrote:
The human race will become extinct unless it leaves Earth and colonises space within the next two centuries, according to Prof Stephen Hawking, the world's most famous astrophysicist.

Hello Ganesan....

this man is regarded as smart , myself i don't care if he is or not , but the all community regards him as smart , and this smart man says....wait for 2 centuries if we are not all dead , we will go and spread ( i add here :our insanity ) into the space , by the way i am not sure if this man knows that we are in the space , we are the space..as a one unified organism , but , but our analytical brain is not, and do you know why ? well any living creature seems to need such a program to be capable to survive.... the other day i found more compassion in a beautiful big huge rock somewhere in the Kerry mountains in Ireland , compassion in the k meaning , which is by the way the old Greek meaning used in Greek's tragedies of : the passion to be with...more compassion than anywhere else , it sounds weird but it was the deep feeling at the time....

this man is smart.....game over for mankind !!! not!! only joking....
there is a future in a no analytical brain organized world....
closer maybe to the stone age than the U.N age....
when the all mind is unified ,at peace , through deep knowledge of the consequences of being caught in the net of analyzes , basically analyzes is : seeking advantage and results...a bit short but i don't get paid for that , as i am greedy i say little here...when the mind is at peace , it stops seeking ,to stop seeking is the watching , the seing , the looking at.....then people won't meet through violence , interest and so on....but meet for voluntary sharing and cooperation...as unified creatures , not through will , but as a side effect of being at deep peace ,then Mother Nature and the all original energy gives all its blessing ( big word but it is all what i have in shop today)i am afraid that if there is truth , deep truth in that , it means that we are 100% wrong , not 99% , 100 %...wrong way...
we have been given a huge big sign post for helping us: psychological suffering ,it is too big as we don't see it ....intelligence if awakened was meant to say : stop i suffer here , wrong way , i go into it ,see it, and remove it...
but we are only clever monkeys...well clever monkeys don't organize mass murders all over the planet !

our life is :i suffer ( discontentment ) so i seek , Mr top of the pyramid too,everyone seeks ....out of heavy discontentment....
there is discontentment and seeking , analytical brain takes the seeking to analyze ,when intelligence which is asleep would go for the deep looking into the origin of discontentment , which is for lazy people, as there is indeed nothing to act on..
one morning i will get up full of anger against me and decide to stop seeking ,anger is the necessary fuel to stop seeking , anger is a gift , discontentment too...we have everything ,there will be no evolution as we are a finish product....
if this is not true, it means that mankind suffering is then the fault of the Ultimate Origin, if that was the case, the universe itself is insane....

discontentment shows the wrong way , as surely as the fire in Mount Doom destroyed the master ring !

Thank you sri. Daniel.

I sense some similar insanity when people from my place migrate to an advanced countries.
gb

We are watching, not waiting, not expecting anything to happen but watching without end. JK

ganesan balachandran wrote:
Thank you sri. Daniel.
I sense some similar insanity when people from my place migrate to an advanced countries. gb
We are watching, not waiting, not expecting anything to happen but watching without end. JK

Hello Ganesan, delighted to meet you again...sri Daniel...talks to you !
Yes i perfectly get your point here....i am from Brittany located in france , france another colonialist of the world , anyway , i had this aunt of mine , she would have been 100 years nowadays, a little woman , only spoke in Breton ,a celtic language, lived all her life in the country with no electricity , no running water, no heating but the fire place, huge one where people were used to sit around in the winter time and chat away, the kids were getting some heat too , and were allowed to put a few branches into the fire place, but no modern comfort , everything in the house was related to the huge fire place , in those days a little fire was on all day long for hot water purpose , the cooking and so on...producing her own food ,
the surrounding was a kind of wild, she was a farmer , we would say poor , not for me...she had a huge physical energy and was simply a nice person , at the most she traveled 10 miles radius from her house ...all that i lived , i still have has a dead memory the energy which was there....
today if i am in a city i can't walk fast , this energy is gone , at least i don't feel it.....sorry for this personal remembering , usually it is not my cup of tea at all , but i felt like saying it because of your post

and this sentence from k ...watching not waiting , is precisely the topic i wrote in some other forum here....
with my words it is: not seeking is the watching, which is the same....
there is no much need to tell more , it seems so far that this is a compulsory point to know about...A door...a path !!!
it is not so easy to say : i know that....
I got news from dhirendra, he seems good enough so far...
take care...
Dan the man....one of my nick names...

discontentment shows the wrong way , as surely as the fire in Mount Doom destroyed the master ring !

selfish Man heading to self distruction is truly a wrong turn.

selfish Man heading to self distruction is truly a wrong turn.

to simply put what i try to say is that...the part of the brain used when not grow up physically yet is fine...

then this part of the brain which reaches physical maturity is entirely shocked , devastated by what it sees.....this part which i myself call analytical process , but any other word is ok too , this part simply can't take what it sees ,as it forecast ...its own end...
the life ( whatever lies behind it ..) is too big for this part of the brain , it means it can "feel" it but is too frightened...seing it has an end creates a huge disturbance , unbearable disturbance and this analytical brain can't take it...impossible..

this is when i should "stay" in my own ways with all that.....and see...without trusting any will....how come to that point ?
When the link between pain ( only lies say there is no pain ) and my will/cravings , will which goes beyond vital needs to survive , when the link is seen , then staying becomes possible because the first time it has been done , a miracle has happened....relief came out of the blue...and more..

Then whatever happens won't be in the same direction...if even there is a direction ??
the opening , even a tiny opening of some "other capacity " has happened...

such a person which can be anyone indeed , leaves the world of value, of competition , and the all insanity....
it is neither good nor bad , as this analyzing is left behind and used in it field of competence ...whether I like it or not, to deal with what this analytical brain cannot look at out of unbearable panic is necessary..and comes back into being as soon as i am wrong again ! I found a free teacher....
we have everything is what i say too....i know it sounds arrogant to be so define, who cares about how it sounds here ? not me !

All that analyzing comes back into activity as our brain machine works all the time, but the knowledge to deal with is there....

and the entire man's ugly world is entirely seen ,and it hurts so much , so much.. there is some goodness beyond all that...
this analytical brain has the need to reach its ultimate capacity , its limit : to see that IT IS THE PROBLEM ...
the first attempt to escape had been the wrong direction.....
bearing the suffering to see through it seems to be necessary....
this is all what i want to say for now....this is in the field of what i "see "....
And it definitively brings something...

Dan.

discontentment shows the wrong way , as surely as the fire in Mount Doom destroyed the master ring !

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paul mohaddhib wrote:
this analytical brain has the need to reach its ultimate capacity , its limit : to see that IT IS THE PROBLEM ... the first attempt to escape had been the wrong direction..

Rightly said, Dan, it is midnight here, I just stayed for a while to read your post.

I don't know