Here and in whole world there are few peoples who are interested in K teaching.Is there any cooperation and affection in them?Do they feel like friends?Like good friends do they have sharing and openness?

Are they only related very superficially, at intellectual level only?

Personally I feel, if we don't care of each other, we are just wasting energy.

I don't know

This post was last updated by dhirendra singh Sun, 18 Dec 2011.

Hi Dhi :-) yes do we like to share and listen to one another?
Do we feel same, do we not know so we can consider topics together, be together in considering them ?
Or is competition unevitable?

Hi Ute:)

I don't know

dhirendra singh wrote:
Are they only related very superficially, at intellectual level only?

Ofcourse, yes. It takes just one wrong kind of post to start a war of acrimonious words. Throwing the first stone is what one should refrain from and things would certainly move more smoothly.

FLOW WITH LIFE!

Ute S wrote:
Or is competition unevitable?

It looks like it's inevitable, but for person who feel harmony with K teaching there must not be any competition.As recently Patricia said, K's findings are technical facts, even intellectual understandings is enough to show that all competitions are for strengthening of self.

Why to strengthen my-self?:)

I don't know

dhirendra singh wrote:
Why to strengthen my-self?:)

One knows no real way of avoiding it. Psychological factors overrule the intellectual understanding easily and every time.

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dhirendra singh wrote:
Here and in whole world there are few peoples who are interested in K teaching.Is there any cooperation and affection in them?Do they feel like friends?Like good friends do they have sharing and openness?

Are they only related very superficially, at intellectual level only?

Personally I feel, if we don't care of each other, we are just wasting energy.

I have been waiting for a post like this, on a site like this....

T

dhirendra singh wrote:
Why to strengthen my-self?:)

Fear!

THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE

Dr.sudhir sharma wrote:

One knows no real way of avoiding it. Psychological factors overrule the intellectual understanding easily and every time.

Well, specially here we have sufficient time to understand the psychological reaction and then respond, so I don't think that here it is unavoidable.:)

I don't know

RICK LEIN wrote:
Fear!

Of what? of loosing self?

I don't know

B Teulada wrote:
I have been waiting for a post like this, on a site like this....

:) Really all selves are basically similar, so pointing a particular self that it is 'so' or 'so' is meaningless, we are same.

I don't know

dhirendra singh wrote:
Is there any cooperation and affection in them?

for that one has to see love exists. but you seem to question its existence.
gb

We are watching, not waiting, not expecting anything to happen but watching without end. JK

This post was last updated by ganesan balachandran Mon, 19 Dec 2011.

ganesan balachandran wrote:
for that one has to see love exists. but you seem to question its existence.

If love exist, it will welcome all the question:).

I don't know

dhirendra singh wrote:
Of what? of loosing self?

:)

THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE

dhirendra singh wrote:
Really all selves are basically similar, so pointing a particular self that it is 'so' or 'so' is meaningless, we are same.

Bingo!:)

THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE

dhirendra singh wrote:
Well, specially here we have sufficient time to understand the psychological reaction and then respond, so I don't think that here it is unavoidable.:)

Dhirendra, psychological reaction arise immediately as one is reading the inflammatory post. Right?

Now what role time will play in this? If time is required for understanding and dealing with the reaction, then all one is doing is the modifying/suppressing/diluting the initial reaction. Right?

Now only thing left is to decide the intensity of actual reaction in the reply. In real sense, is that important? Sooner or later the conflict is bound to escalate and come out in open.

You still feel that time will help here? Or Undestanding in this matter of resolving the psychological conflict is either immediate (the total ending of conflict) or one is going to explode immediately or will start playing a game wearing a mask. What do you feel?

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dhirendra singh wrote:
Really all selves are basically similar, so pointing a particular self that it is 'so' or 'so' is meaningless, we are same.

No, what is of significance is the state of mind of the person who is doing the pointing. Pointing can be done in the heat of emotional disturbance or after it has ended. If the ending is immediate, then it is one thing. If it has come over a period of time by intellectual discussion with oneself, then it is not very meaningful. If it is done with the right state of mind, it certainly bears fruit sooner or later. Our hearts have the ability to listen unconsciousely to what the other heart is saying.

We all have the ability of deceiving ourselves in this matter. I know and understand it well, Dhirendra. So don't ask me the next question, please.:)

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Dr.sudhir sharma wrote:
one is going to explode immediately or will start playing a game wearing a mask. What do you feel?

Self is mask, no other mask matters, this is not question of wearing more masks, Sudhir, either you explode and kill some one with immediate reaction or you calm down and react with an intellectual friendship, you are wearing mask in both situation.But question is why am I here?Am I not here, after understanding K intellectually, to try to find out about living the teachings?If I am here for this, whys should I keep wasting energy on 'you' and 'me' which are very superficial tags.

For understanding the 'self', I have to put aside the superficial things, like 'your self' and 'my self' and have to understand it as a 'self'.:)

I don't know

This post was last updated by dhirendra singh Mon, 19 Dec 2011.

Well, probably we don't want to miss pleasure of sensation of fight, so even knowing that we are same, we keep it up.:)

I don't know

dhirendra singh wrote:
Personally I feel, if we don't care of each other, we are just wasting energy.

It you think you can care for or have affection for an internet persona, you're either deceiving yourself or you're insane. Whoever it is you think you're communicating with is just an image you've formed from the words they've typed. You can only have affection for actual human beings, so let's quit this nonsense of pretending to have affection for each other. This is the internet, fer crisake.

lidlo lady wrote:
You can only have affection for actual human beings

You are actual human being, gender doesn't matter.:)

I don't know

Dr.sudhir sharma wrote:
Psychological factors overrule the intellectual understanding easily and every time.

The doctor is living proof of this.

dhirendra singh wrote:
You are actual human being, gender doesn't matter.:)

For all you know, I could be a program.

lidlo lady wrote:
For all you know, I could be a program.

Even you are a program, my affection is not going to be harmful for you.

I don't know

dhirendra singh wrote:
pleasure of sensation of fight,

Me better than you!

dhirendra singh wrote:
Am I not here, after understanding K intellectually, to try to find out about living the teachings?If I am here for this, whys should I keep wasting energy on 'you' and 'me' which is very superficial tags.

That division of 'you and me' is done by the self. It happens first within and then is projected/seen outside.

FLOW WITH LIFE!

lidlo lady wrote:
The doctor is living proof of this.

And are all others non-living proof?

FLOW WITH LIFE!

None of the others give themselves titles or are as pompous as you.

dhirendra singh wrote:
Even you are a program, my affection is not going to be harmful for you.

You can't harm a program, but you can be a fool for mistaking it for a human.

lidlo lady wrote:
None of the others give themselves titles or are as pompous as you.

Won't cooperate in your dramatics!:)

FLOW WITH LIFE!

lidlo lady wrote:
but you can be a fool for mistaking it for a human.

Fact is, I am a fool whether I have affection for you-the program or for a real human being.

I don't know

This post was last updated by dhirendra singh Mon, 19 Dec 2011.