What does it mean to be conditioned? And how does conditioning operate in our daily life?

Sandra B. wrote:
What does it mean to be conditioned? And how does conditioning operate in our daily life?

I'm conditioned to withold, provide, or fabricate the answer to this question. Does that answer your question?

Sandra B. wrote:
What does it mean to be conditioned?

to see things when they are not there.

Sandra B. wrote:
And how does conditioning operate in our daily life?

and trying to posses those things which your conditioning made you to see.

We are watching, not waiting, not expecting anything to happen but watching without end. JK

My obsession to understand JK's teacings for the sake of trueth, is making me conditioned to kinfonet, through discussions.

I am that Iam.

Conditioning is the manner in which a corrupt society remains in control.

Or on a smaller scale, in which the psychological self maintains power over the intelligence of the body.

So - doubt everything that you think you know.

Patricia Hemingway wrote:
Conditioning is the manner in which a corrupt society remains in control.

Or on a smaller scale, in which the psychological self maintains power over the intelligence of the body.

So - doubt everything that you think you know..

Well Patricia this is right in my view. dictatorship of this "self" for one is the dictatorship on earth...

I guess the smaller scale IS first , then the global..

Dan.

Dan.

This post was last updated by Daniel Dan Sat, 14 Jan 2012.

Sandra B. wrote:
What does it mean to be conditioned? And how does conditioning operate in our daily life?

I am conditioned to

"end up with a boring, miserable life because I listened to my mom, my dad, my teacher, to Jiddu Krishnamurti, or some guy on television telling me how to do my shit, so I deserve it"

You deserve it too.

lidlo lady wrote:
to withold

Hey!! Mister "correct spelling" you have omitted an "h". Start by yourself or you are no longer credible.

K. Kennedy wrote:
lidlo lady

means a miss, kennedy means a Mr. is conditioning:)
gb

We are watching, not waiting, not expecting anything to happen but watching without end. JK

Sandra B. wrote:
What does it mean to be conditioned? And how does conditioning operate in our daily life?

One is conditioned when self interest, concern and fulfillment dominate all one's actions. Urge to become better, bigger and desire for 'more' show the presence of conditioning in our lives.
Why is it difficult to become aware that one's action and behaviour are conditioned through and through?

FLOW WITH LIFE!

Patricia Hemingway wrote:
So - doubt everything that you think you know.

First and last step..thanks patricia..and Bingo!:)

THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE

Dan Mohad Dib wrote:
Well Patricia this is right in my view. dictatorship of this "self" for one is the dictatorship on earth...

I guess the smaller scale IS first , then the global..

:)

THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE

Dr.sudhir sharma wrote:
Why is it difficult to become aware that one's action and behaviour are conditioned through and through?

Fear of the void..of nothingness!

THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE

This post was last updated by RICK LEIN Sat, 14 Jan 2012.

ganesan balachandran wrote:
means a miss, kennedy means a Mr. is conditioning:)

LOL..how true!

THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE

RICK LEIN wrote:
Fear of the void..of nothingness!

Does self know that it is running away from void or nothingness? Or trying to become something more or better is the reason for its ignorance?

FLOW WITH LIFE!

Dr.sudhir sharma wrote:
One is conditioned when self interest, concern and fulfillment dominate all one's actions. Urge to become better, bigger and desire for 'more' show the presence of conditioning in our lives.

No, that's not conditioning. It's the natural consequence of being able to think and imagine.

K. Kennedy wrote:
Hey!! Mister "correct spelling" you have omitted an "h". Start by yourself or you are no longer credible.

I am no longer spelligible.

lidlo lady wrote:
No, that's not conditioning. It's the natural consequence of being able to think and imagine.

Conditioning originates from what is stored in memory and is of interest and concern to self, does it not?

FLOW WITH LIFE!

lidlo lady wrote:
I'm conditioned to withold, provide, or fabricate the answer to this question. Does that answer your question?

Hi, it seems to that I am not at all what I thought or whished I was. It look to me that there is fear all over, all kind of fear, not that it is bothering me, it is a plus to know what we are, so if I say that I am basically fear, I am over reacting here?

True experimenting consists in understanding through our own alert watchfulness,

Dr.sudhir sharma wrote:
Conditioning originates from what is stored in memory and is of interest and concern to self, does it not?

Conditioning is what happens to you as a result of conditions imposed.

jean-m girard wrote:
if I say that I am basically fear, I am over reacting here?

No, I'd say fear, insecurity, consciousness of mortality is the root of what we are.

lidlo lady wrote:
Conditioning is what happens to you as a result of conditions imposed.

Conditions imposed from outside is the cause and conditioned self is the result. Is it not necessary for self to get involved (by accepting and rejecting conditions with accompanying emotional reaction) for conditions imposed to become a part of psychological memory and hence conditioning?

FLOW WITH LIFE!

Dr.sudhir sharma wrote:
Conditioning originates from what is stored in memory and is of interest and concern to self, does it not?

Are you suggesting here that any response from memory could very well be conditioning?

True experimenting consists in understanding through our own alert watchfulness,

jean-m girard wrote:
Are you suggesting here that any response from memory could very well be conditioning?

Conditioning has roots in Psychological memory, isn't this so?

FLOW WITH LIFE!

Dr.sudhir sharma wrote:
Conditioning has roots in Psychological memory, isn't this so?

Yes I would say it does have it’s root in memory. This is what we are, our conditioning , a set of behavior that will repeat it self.

True experimenting consists in understanding through our own alert watchfulness,

the self is simply conditioned, the whole self is called a human. ask the superior, of the world, i mean people know that being conditioned, is experience, a fixed activity, like working, talking, in the same way, as you,
the kind of person in society. one is also conditioned to respond, which is slightly another term, it is reaction as a real person, like your instinctive release of action, or common resistance, to speak back. you are conditioned as the influences such as education, mentors, and the codes of society, you know this is the mind, and therefore, your self. its a bit slack these days, is not self knowledge , understanding how you are conditioned, is called the human self. this quoting of k, people being young have got wrong, there is no easy answer, so lets get back to all the people, whats wrong with being human beings now, so what influences do you have, because you have to reveal what you know, alot of people on this website or lying about the krishnarmutis, and it is just interest for them, and good fun, the people of k , were quiet, people , bookish, and devoted conventional folk, they are and were natural relations of the people, and one has the nature, to rely, to awarely hold conditioning, are you a person of the truth.

frank

the messiah

Dr.sudhir sharma wrote:
Does self know that it is running away from void or nothingness? Or trying to become something more or better is the reason for its ignorance?

Maybe so..maybe not?:)

THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE

lidlo lady wrote:
I am no longer spelligible.

LOL! O.M. will straighten you out pal!

THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE

Dr.sudhir sharma wrote:
Is it not necessary for self to get involved (by accepting and rejecting conditions with accompanying emotional reaction) for conditions imposed to become a part of psychological memory and hence conditioning?

I don't know what you're trying to say. Try again.

Dr.sudhir sharma wrote:
Conditioning originates from what is stored in memory and is of interest and concern to self, does it not?

Conditioning originates with the conditions imposed. How the brain is shaped by the conditions is the conditioning.