"...the search for happiness, truth or reality is born out of the desire to escape from the prison of suffering, and is therefore fundamentally false..."

If we could've seen this from the beginning, no search would've commenced. But because we're conditioned from infancy to see only what we're told is there, and we haven't yet developed the ability to question or doubt those doing the telling, our life becomes a search for what we're told is there to be found or attained.

Thus, when K comes along and says "Wake up!", not knowing how to do anything but what we're told, we pretend to be awake and attentive.

lidlo lady wrote:
Thus, when K comes along and says "Wake up!", not knowing how to do anything but what we're told, we pretend to be awake and attentive.

Mirror mirror on the wall....see yourself in it?

Do you see how childish, how puerile you are? You can't address what I'm saying so you revert to nursery rhymes.

Make it clear, if you can, what objection you take to what I'm saying.

lidlo lady wrote:
If we could've seen this from the beginning, no search would've commenced

Search had commenced from immemorial times and will probably continue for a long time in the future. Maybe -as you've said in another thread- Man is not ready yet for the awakening and perceiving things as they are.

Krishnamurti is not the only human who says "Wake up". Before him many serious people had real perceptions and tried to convey the truth of what they've lived, perceived without any faking.

Our search is not the result of what Tom, Dick or Harry told us to search or to look for.

In fact, We do not know ourselves, and deep down we know that and ignore it, hence our misery and suffering spring from this ignorance.

Very few humans realized the real nature of what/who they are. The rest of us have to ask and dig and not fake or immitate what we have been told or what we've heard.

K. Kennedy wrote:
Very few humans realized the real nature of what/who they are.

If you haven't "realized the real nature of what/who" you are, you can't know whether anyone else has. All you can do is believe or be skeptical enough to find out what's involved.

lidlo lady wrote:
If you haven't "realized the real nature of what/who" you are, you can't know whether anyone else has .

Quite right, but many serious people talked about realisation and being in their presence can shed "light" on our dark not knowing what we are.

lidlo lady wrote:
All you can do is believe or be skeptical enough to find out what's involved.

I haven't found out, I can't find out..... So I beleive....

To be skeptical is the death of me as I know it......

What is involved "I" I, I, I I, do not know.....

This post was last updated by K. Kennedy (account deleted) Fri, 20 Jan 2012.

We believe others have found out of what we are and into what we should be because we believe in what-should-be. Belief is the problem, but how do you approach it? How do you look at the believer you are without believing or disbelieving what you see? All you know is belief/disbelief, so what're ya gonna do?

This post was last updated by lidlo lady Sat, 21 Jan 2012.