Once during a regular question and answer session with his students, spiritual teacher J. Krishnamurti paused and leaned forward and asked the audience, “Do you want to know what my secret is?”. Everyone sat up and became immensely alert because here was one of the great spiritual teachers of the 20th century and he was about to tell them his secret. Krishnamurti in a soft spoken voice said “You see, I don’t mind what happens”.

Dan.

This post was last updated by Daniel Dan Thu, 26 Jan 2012.

Only, as a guess, putting aside what is/what should be fight , could do that , as thick as we are, in my view.To do that needs to let any what is free to be so with no interference,what is is the leader then, this include the fear of my death and any other suffering but globally speaking it includes to get the point that I deadly wish continuity and pleasurable experiences and why not ?something wrong with it ?

unless some miracle happens , like in k's case if there was such a miracle operated by mother nature,but of this I have no clue at all ?
He may have just simply been "normally" been "open minded" , a normal stage of mankind mind normal evolution of the brain-mind when we are physically adults , a stage alas apparently missed by nearly 100 %..less a few..

how am I to "do" such a thingy thing eh!??

Dan.

This post was last updated by Daniel Dan Thu, 26 Jan 2012.

Dan Mohad Dib wrote:
You see, I don’t mind what happens”.

It's still secret Dan, to not mind what happens.

I don't know

dhirendra singh wrote:

Dan Mohad Dib wrote:
You see, I don’t mind what happens”.

It's still secret Dan, to not mind what happens.

dhirendra ,was not it there sometimes in the childhood?

Dan.

Dan Mohad Dib wrote:
dhirendra ,was not it there sometimes in the childhood?

Possible Dan, but can't say for sure. My recording says that there was always usual self with it's all fundamental characters.

I don't know

Dan Mohad Dib wrote:
Krishnamurti in a soft spoken voice said “You see, I don’t mind what happens”.

K wouldn't give the audience a conclusion, a principle or a system. So, what quality or essence would take K's reply out of the above categories?

FLOW WITH LIFE!

Dr.sudhir sharma wrote:
K wouldn't give the audience a conclusion, a principle or a system.

Sudhir I quote do not follow that ,sorry...

I am just interested in what is behind : I don't mind what happens....

Dan.

Dan.

Of all the things K said, "find out for yourself" was the most important, yet you waste your life going over everything else he said.

lidlo lady wrote:
find out for yourself

Please.

I don't know

Dan Mohad Dib wrote:
I am just interested in what is behind : I don't mind what happens....

the same old question: who is it that 'minds'?

when the 'who' is no longer there, then you have the 'not minding'.
Now, how do we get to the 'who' not being there?

is this your question?
because this seems to be the fundamental question of everyone who approaches K at some point or other.

T

B Teulada wrote:
who is it that 'minds'?

the all body mind brain cells....

B Teulada wrote:
Now, how do we get to the 'who' not being there? is this your question ?

if only I knew what my question is? ::)) big big smile here !!

?? but it could be a wrong question , I have in mind the opening of the all brain instead of focussing on the who not being there..as it may always be there ::))

the who when seeing it is the pain in some of its activities could, may, will ,should let it go not all of itself in a row, but start doubting itself...for that being fed up with pain so not ignoring it by pretending that all is fine seems..appropriate, but as it sounds rather not fun usually it is not taken into account....I think..not too sure about al that..

cheers nearly next door neighbour

Dan.

Dan Mohad Dib wrote:
?? but it could be a wrong question , I have in mind the opening of the all brain instead of focussing on the who not being there..as it may always be there ::))

apparently when the 'who' is not there, only function left for the brain is a technical one. want my honest opinion? I don't think my 'who' or my 'self' will ever go flying out the window but they may, at any given time, see (and accept) that they certainly cause a lot of havoc.
so i aim real low and if i happen to reach high, then be it, if not ... then be it, too :-)

cheers nearly next door neighbour

:-)

B Teulada wrote:
the same old question: who is it that 'minds'?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydAfgSIgU_E

lidlo lady wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydAfgSIgU_E

Ah, Muppets (or something like that). Nice. Thanks.

That's a welcome change from insults and being obnoxious.

Don't you go anywhere Lidlo ! soon enough you will be civil
(stranger things have happened....) !

Cheerio.

T

Dan Mohad Dib wrote:
Once during a regular question and answer session with his students, spiritual teacher J. Krishnamurti paused and leaned forward and asked the audience, “Do you want to know what my secret is?”. Everyone sat up and became immensely alert because here was one of the great spiritual teachers of the 20th century and he was about to tell them his secret. Krishnamurti in a soft spoken voice said “You see, I don’t mind what happens”.

Does anyone have a reference for this?

This post was last updated by Peter Kesting Thu, 26 Jan 2012.

B Teulada wrote:
Ah, Muppets (or something like that). Nice. Thanks.

That's a welcome change from insults and being obnoxious.

Don't you go anywhere Lidlo ! soon enough you will be civil
(stranger things have happened....) !

I see real affection here. :)

Dan Mohad Dib wrote:
Everyone sat up and became immensely alert because here was one of the great spiritual teachers of the 20th century and he was about to tell them his secret. Krishnamurti in a soft spoken voice said “You see, I don’t mind what happens”.

He could have said anything and it would have had the same effect. His listeners were so devoted, so enthralled, that he couldn't have mispoken even if he'd told them they were a miserable pack of pathetic sycophants...which they were...and still are.

lidlo lady wrote:
sycophants...which they were...and still are.

Sycophants....brown-losers? You have just destroyed my self-image and I thought I was enlightened :)

Peter Kesting wrote:
Does anyone have a reference for this?

not really, ..are there real word by k ? it could be.

anyway, I started the thread as if so it was k words .

So far I clearly see this " I don't mind what happens " as exactly what is showed to me when I let suffering acts according to its own quality ...this is why ..

Any relief from the unconscious pain brought by deep understanding recurrently says that , in the midst of many other "seeing"..I don't mind what happens means a totally different direction of the mind...so of the whole of life....all problems solved in theory remain the last huge one: i do not want to die, brought by this thought : " i hope it will last"..then here we are naked, no bargaining, no alteration , there is nothing to say for the self here but shut up !!!

Dan.

Dan.

from today's quote which I find fits the topic of "a secret" .

To understand this flow of life, mind must be free entirely from finalities, from certainties, which are but the outcome of the desire for self-protection.

is not it the very same as :"I don't mind what happens" ?

when this is real not like our usual lies ,then is it possible to psychologically meet death when "alive" without running away from it?

Not running away from it has , out of probably many effects , one which would stuck anyone being there , it simply does not allow the projection of any glorious future and brings one to live this moment to moment time if and only if sorrow is lived, again, the catalyst for that being possible is the constant pain brought by a "normal"life...constant pain which seems to be possible to be dealt with at the non conscious level of this "me", me being from my legs to my brain , memories,taste,talent,and so on.

the unconscious "me" has a clue about sorrow when the superficial analytical self has not, it seems to be capable to check sorrow in the sense of : what is the root of this one?
then brings it to the open light of the all mind, and if a root has no solution but is a false proposition, it is then automatically removed,bringing relief and goodness, and if the root has a solution it then shows itself..

It is not as precise as said by the words, but it is kind of like that..

Dan.