I was reading this article below and seeing that this is already happening with consciousness but is not recognised. They want to make quantum computer by transporting complex data within packets of light, using theory of entanglement. This is already the process of thought and thought transference, which is mistakenly thought of as special psychic power. Funny how science unconsciously mimics real life processes. It cannot invent or create. It only mimics.

Scientists make teleportation breakthrough

Boffins from Japan and Australia have made a huge scientific breakthrough by successfully teleporting packets of light from one area to another.

The mind-bending project, led by Noriyuki Lee at the University of Tokyo, could lead to the creation of super-powerful quantum computers and revolutionise the telecommunications industry.

The team managed to teleport wave packets of light by destroying them in one place and re-creating them in another.

It's an incredible process that means transmitting large volumes of complex quantum information could be quicker than is currently possible.

The quantum physics term behind this experiment is 'entanglement'. It means that two particles can be bonded in such a way that even when separated by large distances, they are still linked. So what happens to one affects the other.

The team linked packets of light to half a pair of entangled particles. They destroyed one of the particles and the light itself, leaving just one remaining particle. This particle still contained detailed information about the light which they could then use to rebuild the original particle.

'Schrodinger's cat'

The process involves 'Schrodinger's cat'. Unfortunately it's not a real feline, but a hypothetical experiment first carried out in the 1935.

Schrödinger envisioned in a cat in a sealed box with a small amount of radioactive material and a Geiger counter measuring radiation. If the atom decayed the counter would release cyanide into the box and kill the cat.

According to quantum mechanics, the cat is neither dead nor alive. Until someone opens the box both possibilities exist. It's supposed to illustrate how in quantum mechanics particles can exist in suspended states of multiple possibilities.

The team at the University of Tokyo were able to put the light wave in a 'Schrödinger's cat' state with the help of a machine simply called 'The Teleporter', and make it have two opposite phases at the same time.

Professor Elanor Huntington, who was part of the research team, told ABC News: "What we've done is take a macroscopic beam of light and put it into a quantum superposition, which is extremely fragile, and teleported that from one place to another."

Doing this demonstrates that - for the first time - blocks of complex quantum information can now be carried by light.

"If we can do this, we can do just about any form of communication needed for any quantum technology," she said.

Unfortunately the breakthrough doesn't mean we'll ever be able to transport human beings, Star Trek style. At present even bacteria is far too complex to be transported.

Written by Orlando Parfitt

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This post was last updated by Julia Rojas (account deleted) Tue, 19 Apr 2011.

Julia Rojas wrote:
This particle still contained detailed information about the light which they could then use to rebuild the original particle.

Theoritically the feline would know something is fishy inside the box. I wonder if all this would hold good in non-galilean space.

Sacred, Profound

I was reading the above article and wondering how to deal with it. What has it to do with these discussions on the forum? How could we use it? Because I am hesitant to dismiss anything but I note in me a certain nervousness in dealing with news items in this manner, but why not? So . . .

We have this tremendous, unimaginably powerful computer in our heads. It has something like 100 billion neurons all waiting and eager to connect. Each neuron has its own particularity and its unique potential. Virtually any pattern could be constructed with this machine. It could be an inexhausable field of imagination and it could also be a tremendously sensitive instrument for receiving and understanding the world that is.

Working correctly this thing would have unlimited flexibility, indefinable depth and breadth. Used correctly it becomes, not a lump of grey matter but a translucent liquid crystal made of pure light.

But how do we use it? Like a damned Nintendo machine, that's how!

And these scientists have somehow got the gist of something, but what they invent, with all their technique and limited insights into scientific knowledge, energy and matter, will be a very pale imitation (Julia is right, they are mimics of nature, not creators of anything), a very pale imitation of what we already have in our heads.

If we cannot use this thing that we have, how do we hope to improve things by a vastly dumbed-down version, a mere toy in the hands of megalomaniacs?

K talked from the 80's on about the evolution of informatics. 'What will happen when the computer does all the things that are presently accomplished by thought? What will happen to us? Our brains will shrivel up or we will turn to entertainment, which is what is happening.' (please do not ask me for the quote reference, I admit I made it up - his exact words are other.)

I remember the story of the Chinese Emperor who so loved the song of the nightingale that came to his window each evening. The beauty of its inexhaustable and ever-changing melodies was beyond measure, but he was in fear that, being mortal, it would inevitably perish. The thought of losing that song mortified him, more than losing the bird itself. So his magicians created a mechanical nightingale, made of tin, that would sing for ever. The Emperor was extremely proud of the new toy, the only one of its kind in the entire world, and he showed it off to everyone. It was the news on the empire. He forgot about the real flesh and blood creature he had adored. The real nightingale was so sad it flew off into the deep woods and died. The very next day the mechanical bird bust its springs and fell to pieces.

What are you waiting for?

This post was last updated by Paul Davidson (account deleted) Sun, 17 Apr 2011.

I like the China story. I remember my aunt tell me that when I was young. Nice to hear it again and the context is good for this. But I dont know if K was right about the computer taking over our lives and we will all be out of work. It didn't happen like that and he talked forty years ago on it so is enough time.

The computer revolution has reduced costs very much, especially in banking and so on. To do internet transaction is 0.01 pence administrative cost conmpared to one pound to do a transaction at the bank counter like we did before checkbooks. That is factor of ten thousand to one. But financial sector have grown very much in spite of this or vecause of this. And the people work more hours than ever.

This idea he had of so much leasure I think he got from some economists he talked with at the time who speculate about social trends but do not understand too much really. I had one like that at university who said we would be the generation of leisure, but look at it.

K was sometime influenced by experts and naive on some things like personal appearance and what to eat. He had told that it is essential to have a good trouser crease and shiney shoes and continue all his life with that. In superficial things Krishnamurti was sometime foolish, which for me is charming of him.

But on this computer thing I don't know. A quantum computer to boil an English five minute egg? Who knows.

Darkness is your candle: Your boundaries are your quest

Paul Davidson wrote: >and fell to pieces.

Mahasamadhi comes only to select few.
As honorary and non-honorary types of post-death experiences come to certain few. We live in expectation driven world. Is there an I that builds expectation? Through the presence of discerning souls, with a lot of patience effort and chanting and prayer the highest form of death separated sufferer , negated death by invitation as untruth.

Sacred, Profound

This post was last updated by Tihit Kumarz (account deleted) Mon, 18 Apr 2011.

Julia Rojas wrote:
In superficial things Krishnamurti was sometime foolish, which for me is charming of him.

It happens.He was not intellectually best.He was not best in science and medical field.His many action were foolish.

But brain K was only part of whole K.Probably we don't know his real work, teaching is just a trivial part.We can't judge him by his teachings and his few foolish things.

I don't know

dhirendra singh wrote:
But brain K was only part of whole K.Probably we don't know his real work, teaching is just a trivial part.We can't judge him by his teachings and his few foolish things.

K is a team, not an individual.

Sacred, Profound

I dont know what is mahasamadhi Tihit but I think you mean enlightenment. I have struggle enough with my english not to know Indian languages. I dont know what is honory and non-honory types and what are types at all and I don't know of post-death experience. Ant Tihit, I do not know what you are trying to say at all. Maybe it is me but also I think you have to put yourself a little in the place of the one you are talking to and not be too much in your own head about it. Yes, give a coin not only to the beggar but to all of us but it has to be in a currency we can use.

Oh no Dhirendra, do not judge him by anything or you will be judging yourself.

Darkness is your candle: Your boundaries are your quest

Julia Rojas wrote:
The team managed to teleport wave packets of light by destroying them in one place and re-creating them in another.
It's an incredible process that means transmitting large volumes of complex quantum information could be quicker than is currently possible.
The quantum physics term behind this experiment is 'entanglement'. It means that two particles can be bonded in such a way that even when separated by large distances, they are still linked. So what happens to one affects the other.
The team linked packets of light to half a pair of entangled particles. They destroyed one of the particles and the light itself, leaving just one remaining particle. This particle still contained detailed information about the light which they could then use to rebuild the original particle.

You should google "The Aspect Experiment" that took place in France in 1982. If memory serves...it demonstrated that two once-connected quantum particles separated by vast distances remained somehow connected and that if one particle changed, the other also changed simultaneously.

Actually...I think I will google it.

I change the name, the title from transportation to tele-portation because I got it wrong first time. It is tele-porting quanta of photons containing energy, which is as Bob is pointing, not involving distance but is non-local, from a to b with no movement, simultaneous. Yes Bob, this is base upon the experiment of quantum physics you called the Aspect Experiment. I knew it by another name and I cant remember, but is 'entanglement.'

It is like when you think of someone you don't remember for a long time and just then the phone rings. My experience with this is that consciousness is already doing this but we are usually are insensitive to it because our brain is doing other things. Sometimes it happens which mean always it could happen. I never get excited by these things now, it is ordinary. I get excited by the taste of some new thing, which is like magic. How do I taste something if I do not know what it is, a completely new thing? It is more magic than in this clairvoyance which is ordinary.

Darkness is your candle: Your boundaries are your quest

Julia Rojas wrote:
but is non-local, from a to b with no movement, simultaneous

I had this stupendous synchronicity
when a friend of mine and me were discussing and concurred simultaneously at the same time , at the same level and at the same intensity. i could feel her in me even now but don't know where she is.. Is that entanglement.
gb

We are watching, not waiting, not expecting anything to happen but watching without end. JK

This post was last updated by ganesan balachandran Thu, 21 Apr 2011.

ganesan balachandran wrote:
Is that entanglement. gb
p.s: if i drink , will she get the kick....!

Well, I will not talk of the man who drinks and the woman who get a kick because this is too common. That is entanglement called marriage.

Yes it is often that the synchronicity is with people we have been close to. But I never read any theory to convince me how this is possible. Because is not only with people but with things too. Once I went to buy a broom for the garden here in London and when I got to the bus a new broom was waiting for me at the bus stop. That is not telepathy unless the broom was thinking of me. I dont think my new broom was that smart.

Maybe I was entangled with that broom in another lifetime or on another dimension. Maybe the wood came from my home town.

Darkness is your candle: Your boundaries are your quest

On synchronicities:

Today in the house I share with two others I could not get to the bathroom in the morning and left forgetting to go back and clean my teeth, the first time for many years I did not brush. Later, getting my lunch in the dining room I chose some olives with my salad, very unusual because I don't trust them, due to being too salty and having stones. But these looked good and were mixed with marinated peppers and red onion, which I like.

At my table I cautiously tried the first olive and was pleased to find it had no stone. Being convinced therefore that the others would be similar I threw caution to the wind until . . . CRUNCH! Oh no! I had broken a tooth.

Later I was talking to a new guest at the centre and she was telling me of her failed marriage to a . . . dentist . . . and I said jokingly that it was a pity they had broken up because I might have got a discount as I had need of a dentist for my broken tooth. She would be pleased to offer me the number of an Iranian dentist based in a nearby town, a personal acquaintance, which I accepted. And just as she reached for her cell-phone a text message arrived at that very moment from her friend the dentist. And that led to a discusssion on synchronicity. I said I had been thinking about mental telepathy but had never experienced until then, dental telepathy.

So I was not at all surprised to come to Kinfonet this evening and see we are discussing the same thing (synchronicity, not teeth.) It is by now a four-tiered synchronous event. Even Jung would be impressed!

What are you waiting for?

Julia Rojas wrote:
That is entanglement called marriage.

Not all entanglement leads to marriage , or not all marriage finds entanglement. i jumped from my seat when i saw your topic and postings, since some thing was telling me that you were the one to share my experience much before you posted it. how are we connected

Julia Rojas wrote:
Maybe the wood came from my home town.

from where i have come from!
gb

We are watching, not waiting, not expecting anything to happen but watching without end. JK

This post was last updated by ganesan balachandran Thu, 21 Apr 2011.

Paul Davidson wrote:
What do you really want?

I want this sense of humor.
gb

We are watching, not waiting, not expecting anything to happen but watching without end. JK

Julia Rojas wrote:
But I never read any theory to convince me how this is possible.

I think i can find the answers in rituals.
gb

We are watching, not waiting, not expecting anything to happen but watching without end. JK

Julia Rojas wrote:
Maybe I was entangled with that broom in another lifetime or on another dimension.

The son of these parents, their charioteer with the power to make things clear, purifies the universe by magic. From the dappled milk - cow and the bull with good seed, everyday he milks the milk that is his seed.
gb

We are watching, not waiting, not expecting anything to happen but watching without end. JK

ganesan balachandran wrote:
I want this sense of humor. gb

You can have it when I'm finished with it. You can have it right now if you like. It is sometimes a burden but I am learning that when I make stupid jokes I am probably in the wrong place trying to do the wrong thing.

But I prescribe a six-month course of films of the Marx Brothers. And it will also help your English no end, Gani. Much better than K.

Laughter clears out the spleen, Gani. Chuckle-asana.

And Gani, you won't romance the poor girl by writing her poems about bull semen! These Paraguayans are more cultured than that.

What are you waiting for?

This post was last updated by Paul Davidson (account deleted) Thu, 21 Apr 2011.

Paul Davidson wrote:
you won't romance the poor girl by writing her poems about bull semen!

Paul Davidson wrote:
I am learning that when I make stupid jokes I am probably in the wrong place trying to do the wrong thing.

the above is one:)
gb

We are watching, not waiting, not expecting anything to happen but watching without end. JK

ganesan balachandran wrote:
the above is one:) gb

Which leaves me on the horns of a dalai lama as to what to write

What are you waiting for?

you are always creative when you are of your own.
gb

We are watching, not waiting, not expecting anything to happen but watching without end. JK

Julia Rojas wrote:
Yes it is often that the synchronicity is with people we have been close to.

But do they perceive the vibrations especially in the fore head without any physical touch.
gb

We are watching, not waiting, not expecting anything to happen but watching without end. JK

ganesan balachandran wrote:
Humor comes on its own like the wind, and many times i have observed with your spontaneity

Are you describing a type of flatulence, Ganesan?

Flatulence will get you nowhere!

What are you waiting for?