Krishnamurti & the Art of Awakening

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santos madrid
santos madrid
Male, 32 yrs. old, visual communication and design
El Paso, TX, United States
Birthday: July 31
Member since: Wed, 30 Dec 2009, 10:03pm
Last visited 20 days ago

Member Statement

I've spent so much time seeking MY enlightenment, polishing MY spirituality, establishing MY relationships with MY friends and have also been guilty of investing in superficies to perpetuate an image about myself that I have created. Which is an illusion. And I see now that people never reach enlightenment, nor any culmination of spirituality or relationship because of the 'MY'. Then there are those that believe they have acquired an 'advanced state' of enlightenment- they might feel that they are superior; which is a egocentric quality and a habit that only fractured beings have. Whole and complete beings are not fractured, have no inhibitions nor any 'need' to express any superiority and therefore and have no hierarchical thought. There is no superior, no inferior- which is a divisive and fractured mode of thinking. Whole and complete beings see the entire unabridged movement that is life, love and living. Only a mind that is sacred can SEE what is sacred- then and only then can that sacred mind be in relation to what is sacred.

Interests and Recommendations

Books

The Awakening Of Intelligence

Movies

The Fountain, Princess Mononoke, Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind, The Little Buddha, Avatar.

Music

Jazz House

Other interests

Art, Learning, Dance, Gym, Music

Interview Answers

How do you personally go about exploring the Krishnamurti's teachings (through personal study, dialogues, dvds)?

Personal study. Audio talk and dialogue. Books and a little bit of video.

El estudio personal. Oir audio y el diálogo. Libros y un poco de vídeo.

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Krishnamurti once said you must begin with doubt, but that doubt must be kept on a leash. How do you find the proper balance between doubt and a "positive disposition" in investigating his proposals, so as to neither tie yourself up in knots, nor to blindly believe?

As with Krishnaji's teachings i cannot have doubt about something that's already in my mind. J. Krishnamurti's teachings, i find, reflect a lot of similar personal views within myself. So when i hear him talk or when i read his dialogues everything makes complete sense. It is as if he is verbalizing or explaining the way I already think. And when i come to learn something new, i see the reasoning very clearly and understand it almost immediately. Initially i approached with pliability and also some degree of skepticism, but it was doubt that was quickly tamed the further i progressed in my studies.

Al igual con las enseñanzas de Krishnaji, no puedo tener duda acerca de algo que ya está en mi mente. Me parece que las enseñanzas de J. Krishnamurti 's refleja una gran cantidad de puntos de vista personales similares dentro de mí. Así que cuando lo oigo hablar o leo sus diálogos todo lo que tiene se me parece muy logico. Es como si él está verbalizando o la explicación es de la forma en que ya pienso. Y cuando vengo a aprender algo nuevo, veo el razonamiento con mucha claridad y entiendo casi inmediatamente. En principio me acerqué con flexibilidad y también un cierto grado de escepticismo, pero la duda rápidamente se domesticó a que progrese aún más en mis estudios.

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Do you think Krishnamurti was exceptional, or is the transformation he spoke of universally accessible?

I think that Krishnaji was exceptional in the sense that he was non-exceptional. The fundamental before known or conventional fundamentals. In fragmentation we are trying to be exceptional. I think J. Krishnamurti embraces what a human being truly is without any form of conditioning or fragmentation. Which is the true human being. And, yes, I think that the transformation he spoke of is universally accessible because we are all that true human being beneath our traditional and conditioning enterprises of living and becoming.

Creo que Krishnaji fue excepcional en el sentido de que no era excepcional. El derecho fundamental antes de conocer los fundamentos convenciales. En la fragmentación, estamos tratando de ser excepcional. Creo que J. Krishnamurti abarca lo que un ser humano es verdaderamente, sin ningún tipo de condicionamiento o de fragmentación. Tal ves el verdadero ser humano. Y creo que la transformación sí se habla de acceso universal porque, debajo de nuestros tradicionales y las empresas de acondicionamiento de la vida y el devenir, existe el verdadero ser humano.

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Do you ever feel that you have been conditioned by Krishnamurti's teachings?

No. Because there have been times when I've explored matters myself independently and introspectively. I've even kept a journal of my own thoughts. And on previous happenings, when listening or reading Krishnaji's teachings, I would have doubt about something that he is saying. But i continue to listen to hear the apotheosis of the explanation or talk. Then it all makes sense in the end. I see what he is saying completely without any inclination of belief.

No. Porque ha habido ocasiones en que ha explorado cuestiones de forma independiente y introspectivamente. Incluso sostengo un diario de mis propios pensamientos. Y en sucesos anteriores, cuando ha escuchado lecturas o diálogos de Krishnaji, me hubiera duda acerca de algo que él está diciendo. Pero sigo a atendiendo para escuchar la apoteosis de la explicación o lectura. En el final, todo hace realización. Veo lo que está diciendo completamente sin ningún tipo de inclinación de la creencia.

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Has coming into contact with Krishnamurti and his teachings had any perceptible effect on your life and/or relationships?

YES! I almost have no anxiety. In my life and In relationships.

¡SÍ! Casi no tengo ansiedad. En mi vida y en las relaciones basicas.

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Can dialogue - in the sense of sincere inquiry - be organized or can it only come about spontaneously, unprompted?

Both if all parties involved are serious about finding out.

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