Krishnamurti & the Art of Awakening

Robert Clarke - Personal Profile


Robert Clarke
Robert Clarke
Ireland
Birthday: November 24
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Member since: Sun, 25 Mar 2012, 8:25am
Last visited 5 years ago

Member Statement

If all is not lost, where is it??

Interests and Recommendations

Books

Anything by the two Krishnamurti's

Movies

Groundhog day

Music

Any music without notes. And if you think I'm being 'smart' it does exist. You may not like it though!

Other interests

Walking/backpacking

Interview Answers

How important do you consider group dialogue to be in understanding the more subtle points of Krishnamurti's message?

Dialogue is important if talking is limited to each individuals direct experiences concerning the subject in question. Active listening is extremely important in this process. To be constantly aware that language is thinking, and thought is the search engine of knowledge and knowledge is always of the past.
To search for answers is to miss the point.

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Are there any aspects of Krishnamurti's teaching that you find implausible or difficult to accept?

Much of his lines of enquiry are difficult to follow as his thinking is unusual and less heavily conditioned than his audiences. He was not a teacher. He was a skilled enabler. Despite his lifetime of meeting with people I would hazard a guess that few people entered into the realm of awareness occupied by Jiddu Krishnamurti.

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How do you strike a balance between healthy doubt and ready acceptance in investigating Krishnamurti's proposals?

If one can establish what 'is' and look at it, there is no need for either doubt or acceptance.

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If you had to sum up what Krishnamurti is all about in just a few words of your own, what would they be?

A facilitator of intelligent enquiry into the causes of mans suffering.

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What future do you foresee for Krishnamurti's works? Do you think they will grow in importance or will they just gradually die away?

This is unknowable. He did not want a following either during or after his life.

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How do you personally go about exploring the Krishnamurti's teachings (through personal study, dialogues, dvds)?

I do not explore. Exploration is searching. 'truth' is already here. It need not be searched for elsewhere. Searching is emptiness.

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Can dialogue - in the sense of sincere inquiry - be organized or can it only come about spontaneously, unprompted?

There is no formula. If talking could end conflict and lead to the end of suffering it would have happened a long time ago. Perhaps dialogue is less important than understanding. 'He who knows does not speak'.

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Does the phrase "living the teachings" have any meaning to you?

There is no fixed way to live! There are no teachings!
Life is fluid, always changing, mutating. Teachings are ideas and therefore of the past. Each word uttered by Krishnamurti, and now in print, is now a dead thing. His ' teachings' are fossilised. If he found it hard to get people to change during his life, his teachings will be only a poor reflection in trying to achieve the same objective.

There is only 'living'. Teachings are of the past always. Leave them. Live your life as intelligently as possible and not according to anyone's dictum.

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Do you think Krishnamurti was exceptional, or is the transformation he spoke of universally accessible?

Yes he was exceptional but the transformation of each one of us is always possible as truth, as in what is, is constantly present. We just choose to ignore it.

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Do you think it is possible to make Krishnamurti more "practicable" than what he himself seems to have allowed for?

There is no method.if there was the world would be different.mankind has not changed in millennia.

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Do you ever feel that you have been conditioned by Krishnamurti's teachings?

Yes. I hear his voice often within myself and although I love him greatly I also know that I must not try to follow him or set him up as an authority or guru. He would have hated that.

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Has coming into contact with Krishnamurti and his teachings had any perceptible effect on your life and/or relationships?

Yes. I only wish I had known him when he was alive. To tell him how much I loved him.

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Do you think it advisable to introduce Krishnamurti to people you know? Have you ever done it and if yes, what are your experiences?

Sometimes. Yes I have done it with favourable outcomes but I am very wary of doing so. I believe it is best to let people discover their own path.

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4 Comments

Daniel Dan (account deleted) wrote:
Mon, 26 Mar 2012, 5:57am

Hello Robert..welcome on board.....have been living in Ireland for some times...just left 4 month ago.....how are things today ?

Robert Clarke wrote:
Wed, 28 Mar 2012, 2:52am

Hi Daniel,
I hope that your time in Ireland was a happy one. The country is learning some lessons the hard way about 'greed'. We still have some way to go.
Where we're you living? Where are you now?

Daniel Dan (account deleted) wrote:
Wed, 28 Mar 2012, 5:41am

Hi Robert

Lately , the past 3 years I was in Letterkenny , before that near blarney..Have been living in Baltimore and Lahinch between 95 and 96..But the Ireland I knew in this past is gone, most of my Irish friends say the same..But this county still remains special , it may find its ways through the greed of the Celtic tiger..I do hope so..Now I live just at the foot of the Pyrenees mountains in Lourdes..with Ireland they are my two favourite part where I feel good, as the nature has kept it" nature"..I know quite well the spot you leave in..by the way I know a Nobby Clarke in Ireland, any link? all the best..slan!

judith donson (account deleted) wrote:
Mon, 08 Jul 2013, 2:27am

HI,
Please can we be friends?
My name is Judith,i am a simple girl,I'm interested in you for a good friendship,please contact me back for a better introduction if you're interested.feel free as i will be waiting to hear from you soon (judith.donson22@yahoo.com)

Yours friend Judith.