Krishnamurti & the Art of Awakening

Jayendran Menon - Personal Profile


Jayendran Menon
Jayendran Menon
Male, 48 yrs. old
Tiruvannamalai, Tamil Nadu, India
Birthday: June 2
Member since: Tue, 09 Jun 2009, 10:38am
Last visited 3 months ago

Member Statement

I got interested in K"s Teachings in 1987, when I stumbled upon the book "Commentaries on Living". The subsequent year, I was working in Chennai(Madras) as a Journalist when I went to Vasanth Vihar. and fell in love with the place. I used to go there almost everyday for about six months during which there was also an Annual Gathering. My whole approach to life changed during that period. My worldly ambitions took a backseat and the inner search became all important. Since then I have studied most of the teachings, seen most of the videos , and also studied other contemporary teachers, been in various ashrams, attended spiritual retreats and discourses. I also have spent quite a lot of time in the study centres of KFI. I am also greatly attracted to Sri Ramanashram and the teachings of Ramana Maharshi. The power of presence at Ramanashram has had a great impact on me and I believe that it has helped me in understanding the teachings of all the great Masters.

Interests and Recommendations

Books

Autobiography of a Yogi, Search in Secret India, Astavakra Gital, I am That, Talks with Ramana Maharshi, Commentaries on Living, Science of Enlightenment by Nitin Trasi, God Experience by Swami Ramdas, Siddhartha by Herman Hesse , Yoga Vashista by Swami Venkatesananda, The Mind of Krishnamurti by Luis.R.Vyas

Movies

Three idiots, Gandhi, The Titanic

Music

M.S.Subbalakshmi, Balamurali krishna, ghazals of Jagjit singh

Interview Answers

How important do you consider group dialogue to be in understanding the more subtle points of Krishnamurti's message?

Group dialogue can certainly help provided the members of the Group are inwardly alive and with a capacity for silence and listening. There has to be a sense of leisure during the group dialogue with members prepared to listen more than speak. Speaking should be done only if you really have something meaningful to say or it should come from the depth of your being. New insights and perceptions could then be generated which would not have happened if you were alone. Therein lies the value of a group dialogue.

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What future do you foresee for Krishnamurti's works? Do you think they will grow in importance or will they just gradually die away?

Krishnamurti"s teachings are an immortal treasure and will remain relevant as long as there are genuine seekers of truth. .Krishnamurti"s teachings are like the text books and not ready reckoners. People looking for short cuts and an easy way out will find Krishnamurti difficult to comprehend. It is not for those who want to be spoon fed and are not ready to work on themselves.

However one must not expect Krishnamurti's teachings to be hugely popular. There is an unfortunate tendency among many to want to spread Krishnamurti's teachings and feel frustrated that there are not many people coming for the dialogues etc. It is important that we understand his teachings and live it ourselves. That should be our only concern. From our clarity we can act and do the right things without bothering about the outcome.

There are also people who think that Krishnamurti's teachings are unique and somehow different from Vedanta, Buddhism, Taoism etc.
We should with a free mind be open to all genuine teachings whether of the past and of the future. We must be careful not to make Krishnamurti into an authority and another sect. I have found that reading other books of Vedanta, Taoism and other contemporary teachers. have enhanced my understanding of K's teachings. and vice versa.

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Do you think it advisable to introduce Krishnamurti to people you know? Have you ever done it and if yes, what are your experiences?

You can introduce Krishnamurti to people whom you feel are ready for it and would benefit from it. However there should not be any missionary zeal about it. Missionary zeal comes about when you are identified with something and then your sense of self gets enhanced when more and more people take to it.

My experiences over the years have been interesting. There have been some who have been greatly enriched and helped. But many could not make head or tail about it. One of my friends had deep sleep listening to the audio tape of K. Another friend of mine returned a book of K that I had given him, the next day, as if it was a hot potato. He was a deeply traditional person.

It is better not to thrust it on anyone. When someone is ready, Nature has a way of bringing what is required for him.

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If you had to sum up what Krishnamurti is all about in just a few words of your own, what would they be?

"Choiceless Awareness of the ways of the Self in the mirror of Relationship". Krishnamurti himself has summed it up best in " the core of the teachings"

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Does the phrase "living the teachings" have any meaning to you?

Understanding is Living. Once there is an insight about the truth, the truth operates. So there is no such thing as Understanding but not living the teachings. However, the understanding permeating the whole of your being and all of your responses may happen over a period of time The habitual reactions may continue for some time. It is like learning to drive a car. Even after you have learnt driving, it takes some time and experience of driving thru heavy traffic to become an expert driver.

There is ofcourse the possiblity that there is only an intellectual study of the teachings without any inward observation because of which there is no transformation. Consequently people may talk a lot but their way of life continues to be as earlier.

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Do you think Krishnamurti was exceptional, or is the transformation he spoke of universally accessible?

Krishnamurti would not have spoken with such great passion for nearly 60 years if the the transformation he spoke of was not possible for all.

Everyone carries the seed of the transformation and anyone really interested and earnest can have access to it.

It is true that Krishnamurti was exceptional, almost an avatar, a channel for the Universal to provide teachings appropriate for the modern age. Everyone need not do what K did , teach and be World renowned, but can find peace and freedom from conflict by understanding oneself.

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Can dialogue - in the sense of sincere inquiry - be organized or can it only come about spontaneously, unprompted?

Dialogues are unique to Krishnamurti centres. I have participated in innumerable dialogues over the years with mixed results. On the basis of my experiences , I have the following suggestions.

Dialogues should be between people who are more or less on the same level of inner maturity. Otherwise it can result in waste of time for some and confusion for others.

There can be two categories of dialogues in a K Centre. One in which anyone seriously interested can join, but which should have an able co-ordinator who can explain the norms of a dialogue and what is dialogue.It should be explained that Dialogue is a sharing of perception and not an exchange of views. There must be intense self-observation and readiness to listen.

The other category is of those who regularly come to the centre and who are known to be deeply interested in inquiry and the teachings. They should be known to each other well. In such cases there can be organised dialogues on specific topics so that new insights flower.

The best dialogues are those that happen spontaneously between friends as they go for a walk and during chance encounters.

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Do you ever feel that you have been conditioned by Krishnamurti's teachings?

Unless one is alert and aware it is easy to be conditioned by K's teachings. This has been the tragedy in respect of so many people who are closely associated with K's teachings. We blindly accept Krishnamurti's repudiation of authority , organised religions, methods, techniques without seeing whether there is truth in what he is saying . We end up making Krishnamurti into our authority.

It is very important that we study his teachings without accepting any thing unless we see the truth of it . But most people are so used to being influenced that they get conditioned even by K, who has tried to phrase the teachings in such a way that it is difficult to be conditioned.

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Are there any aspects of Krishnamurti's teaching that you find implausible or difficult to accept?

I think one of the important things about K"s teachings is that one should never accept it. Look at it and see the truth of it. Then it becomes your truth. One of the great dangers about his teachings has been the usual tendency of the human mind to accept what a great teachers says and be conditioned by it.
Suppose K has repudiated tradition and dismissed some rituals and practices, we should not blindly accept it , without seeing and realizing whether he is right,.

Making Krishnamurti into an authority is a recipe for disaster. In the case of traditional master , atleast they are meant to be authoritative.but not so in case of K.

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How do you strike a balance between healthy doubt and ready acceptance in investigating Krishnamurti's proposals?

Basically it means to look at the teachings with an open mind without being conditioned by the past. There should not be any prejudice which creates doubts or blind acceptance, but an attitude of wanting to learn. It is direct perception of the truth of what is being said or heard.

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Do you think it is possible to make Krishnamurti more "practicable" than what he himself seems to have allowed for?

I do not think that there is a gap between understanding and practice especially with the teachings of Krishnaji. The understanding of the teaching results in freedom from the self and Right holistic action.

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Thu, 05 Nov 2009, 7:21am

welcome. you have given a clear interview. I suggestyou read veda also which is the source of inspiration to many Rishis like Sri Ramana and JK.
with love
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