Krishnamurti & the Art of Awakening

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Walter Rath
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Do you think it advisable to introduce Krishnamurti to people you know? Have you ever done it and if yes, what are your experiences?

It depends on the individual. For those folks who seem open to want to discuss matters such as this it has made sense for me to mention Krishnamurti and/or introduce the issues he raised in our conversations. For those folks who do not seem receptive or open my tendency is to not to discuss it with them unless they should ask.

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If you had to sum up what Krishnamurti is all about in just a few words of your own, what would they be?

Something that Krishnamurti said himself seems to sum up most of what he discussed during his lifetime:

"We have nothing more to do than to observe the causes of disorder in ourselves." (Talks With American Students, pg. 15.)

The reason this sums up Krishnamurti for me is that this statement pretty much touches on all of the other questions that Krishnamurti raised. From the need for awareness and observation, including the importance of exploring what we mean by both of those things, to the importance of looking directly at what is, including disorder and its cause(s), to the importance of self-understanding in relationship to the rest of the world and universe ("You are the world")...this simple statement seems to cover most major issues he brought up in his talks, dialogues and discussions.

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Do you ever feel that you have been conditioned by Krishnamurti's teachings?

Sometimes it becomes apparent to me that my brain has a tendency to turn some of Krishnamurti's phrases own personal ideologies (for the lack of a better term). So, the question..."How do you see things now?" has become an increasingly important question for me to keep in the background on an ongoing basis, for that very reason. That question, at least for me, helps to serve as a reminder that when exploring and inquiring there is always possible new conditioning that may well have taken hold, in addition to any old conditioning that may still be there. This conditioning is not a problem in and of itself. It's the lack of awareness of the conditioning that seems to bring potential for internal conflict.

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Do you think it is possible to make Krishnamurti more "practicable" than what he himself seems to have allowed for?

it does seem possible. And, to me, that's part of the beauty of the words Krishnamurti used. He always seemed to give just enough information to point to something important...while...leaving it up to each one of us to then... take that information and look for ourselves. It's our responsibility to determine how to make these things more "practicable."

It seems to me that the daily challenge of discovering what works best in this particular individual's case is part of that "unconditional freedom" that he talked about.

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Does the phrase "living the teachings" have any meaning to you?

What this question really seems to ask is whether the matters Krishnamurti raised has relevance for me at this moment in time. They invariably always seem to. One thing that does seem clear to me is that by giving attention to these things he's raised and, most importantly, investigating them myself, to the best of my ability, there seems to be some kind of transformative effect. It seems to have brought about a natural gravitation to a healthier way of living, in my mind and body since engaging in these things, such as group and self-inquiry and dialogue.

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What future do you foresee for Krishnamurti's works? Do you think they will grow in importance or will they just gradually die away?

The matters that Krishnamurti raised seem like basic questions of life and therefore it seems likely that these questions and matters will remain relevant to humankind, withstanding the test of time, whether they are ascribed to him or conveyed by other people.

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