K was very good good, maybe the best, but he fight an unbalanced conflict against mass media and thousand years of conflicts.
One may not "make" Krishnamurti practical or impractical.
No, but each one can so write his own book or life..
Don't think we should try. "Speak the speech, I pray you, as I pronounced it to you."
No.
Are you asking if we might try to create a religious movement around the image of a dead prophet?
You people are too far from the teachings really.
I look for guidelines to help me live. But what is a guideline? Who wrote the book of guidelines?
Thos who believe in his words must follow in practice then practicality takes its place among the people automatically, there is no doubt about it.
Understanding Krishnamurti is very personalised and one cannot choose any practical option.
K's teaching provides the foundation for a deep enquiry into the nature of mind, self and truth. I feel that there is also a place for a few contemporary Western teachers aligned with such an enquiry, not dependent on belief or spiritual authority, which may offer additional pointers that can be helpful in making K's teaching more "practicable". A place like the KECC's Swanwick Centre offers the opportunity for serious enquiry based on K's teaching while also including contemporary high-quality teachings that are aligned with it and complement it.
Claro que es posible, solo tenemos que ser sinceros en nuestra busqueda.,
y tenemos que aprender a aceptar con humildad, lo real!
It is clearly posible, we only have to be sincere in our search.,
and we have to learn to accept with hummble, reallity!
I do wander some time if there wouldn?t be some basic concept that would be useful
to understand when some one is being introduce to K, without falling in the trap of the 10 commandment. I will leave this question open and see which idea have been pillar in my process.
1- To better understand observation, to come to the realization that we project outside what we are inside, through observation has been a big deal for me, it does have a strong effect on the mind when you can see it work.
2- Today I can say that I have try to meditate many year?s before I met K, I must say is view on meditation, has been a big deal for me, it does make a lot a sense.
K talked about many thing but if I was ask to give explanation of two concept coming from K , I think they would be observation and meditation.
And I would like to add, that deeper I go into meditation and observation,
at the end of the day they seem a lot, like the same thing.
No. It is not possible to make the teaching 'more practicable' without compromising the truth of the teaching.
It is not about being popular and reaching everyone - there are plenty of gurus and religions who accommodate for that. K went where none of the others went. The teaching is, as he said, not for everyone. To go into the teaching of K deeply, there is a ground that must be laid.
The teaching is not about 'practice'. Does one 'practice' living?
What? Why? This is a wrong question if ever I have encountered one. K didn't "allow" for anything! A man saw something and he pointed out the truth of it...one either tests it or one does not! One either finds out first-hand or one does not. K has no part in it, surely. The brain is either in disorder or it is not. The brain either stays with the fact of disorder or it does not. K is no use in these actions or insights, neither "should" he be...nor did he intend to be!
No, I won't enter into that kind of thinking. I suspect that the reason why we find his teachings impracticable is that we really don't understand what he is saying. The core of it eludes us.
But maybe a new insight, a new learning set is spreading among us and all of sudden it will seem quite natural.
Krishnamurti offered humanity very much, he was one great revolutionary. It's now up to one and each other to learn how to read the book of life, which is within and without.
I think it will be more productive to view this as a "Living Spirituality" on the Indian model, you have "Great Speakers" and" less-than great-contributors", finally who are we to decide. The point is: If there are Seeds of Truth in these Teachings, they should be allowed the freedom and space to flower and bear fruit. As for the inevitable misconceptions, again Time will decide, Once a Teaching is "out there" there are a lot of 2-way interactions with the Consciousness of Mankind, there is a very intricate growth process that is beyond our control, we really don't know the ...ways of the Unknown. As for what " K would have allowed for" , first of all, the origins of these Teachings might have been well beyond him so they don't belong to anybody,: they are offered to mankind at this specific-and maybe critical- point in its evolution, and it is up to everyone who is atracted or intrigued by their content to decide. I think K had this rather obscure statement " If you give me a present and I don't take it, it means it is not mine" But if I understand it rightly, if I take it...it is mine! I guess that's how it works, so congratulations for this Forum initiative-way better than a "chat" and...keep the good work. JR
He was the most clear person I have known.
I don't understand the question, but if you are hinting that certain things he said should be ignored in the name of expediency then I do not agree, even though I do think he would allow for a tremendous degree of flexibility in how we go about the investigation of the teachings.
Very good question. The answer is yes. It is all about practice that comes automatically with seeing. The rest, as we all know, is of no significance.
I don't know, and we may never know, because if one is having insights, and so an actual transformation, how one communicates it --in case one communicates-- will depend on our own temperament, which may suits others or not.
It is possible if the commitment he called for is practiced.
Yes, I think it is possible.
To make Krishnamurti practical, don't practice what he says, just live it.
Regards
Jyothi
Krishnamurti is already 'practicable'
I need to reflect on this, not sure what "practicable" means to you, in the concept of Krishnamurti.
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