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THE LINK
Issue No. 26
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The Newsletter
Editorial Note
by Javier Gomez Rodriguez
Dear Friends
by Friedrich Grohe
K: The Light Of Meditation
Krishnamurti
Letters to the Editor
Seeing that nothing
can be done is mutation
The material limitation of
a science of consciousness
Mind and brain
Articles
Toward Understanding Consciousness
by Dr. John H. Hidley
Keep Far Away
Krishnamurti
Tower Lessons
by Suprabha Seshan
If We Could Establish a Relationship with Nature
Krishnamurti
What Is the Core of Human Confusion?
by Paul Dimmock
On Sensuality
Krishnamurti
The Transformative Psychology of J. Krishnamurti (Part 1)
by Stephen Smith
The Transformative Psychology of J. Krishnamurti (Part 2)
by Stephen Smith
To Be Free of the Word
Krishnamurti
On Education
Unlocking Key Insights at the Oak Grove Teacher's Academy
by Paul Herder
K: On Self-knowledge
Krishnamurti
Confessions of a Science Teacher
by Colin Foster
Mathematics for the Millions: a personal story
by Ashna Sen
Our Children and the Real World
by Venkatesh Onkar
The Oak Grove school trip to India
by Dave Anter
K: To Bring Up Children without Comparison
Krishnamurti
International Network
International Report: Ukraine, Turkey and Azerbaijan
by Raman Patel
K: Order that Continues into Sleep
Krishnamurti
Events
Theme Weekends at The Krishnamurti Centre, Brockwood Park 2007
Annual Saanen Gathering 2007 in Switzerland
Summer Work Party at Brockwood Park 2007
Oak Grove Teacher's Academy 2007
Krishnamurti Summer Study Program 2007
Annual Gatherings in India, USA, Thailand
Announcements
New Initiatives in India
Publications
Obituaries
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Seeing that nothing can be done is mutation
In a letter in your last issue (No. 25, pg. 17), John Raica, after mentioning his having
been interested in K for over 30 years, proposed “a new topic for discussion in The Link:
Why the teachings seem not to work, even for many serious and dedicated students of all
ages.” To start the discussion, he suggested several reasons: K “denied the idea of help”
without making it clear why; he left “the issue of inwardly ‘letting go’” in need of clarification;
and he totally neglected “the issue of identification,” adding that “probably, like
those fine university professors who ... don’t bother to touch on ‘self-evident’ issues, K
missed this step of the ‘dismantling of identification’, leaving it to other forces from other
dimensions.”
I wonder what we mean by “the teachings don’t seem to work.” Is it that, after so many
years of study (over 40 in my case), we find we haven’t changed psychologically, haven’t
undergone the “radical mutation in consciousness” that K talked about? If so, then presumably
what we are seeking is a way of making ourselves ‘mutate’. But K always said there is
no ‘way’, that “truth is a pathless land.” In his view, there can be no effective psychological
techniques for inwardly letting go, dismantling identification, or changing our consciousness
in any respect at all; and that, surely, is why he denied the idea of help.
K made his view particularly clear, to my mind, in the first public talk at Saanen in 1970,
when he said: “One has to find out how to look so that one sees all the things that are
happening, outside or inside oneself, as a unitary process ... as a living, moving process, a
total movement of which one is a part and from which one is not divided.” (The Impossible
Question, pg. 14)
If that is right, then not only do we have no way of making ourselves mutate, but we
have no control over ourselves whatsoever: all our perceptions, thoughts, feelings, decisions,
and actions are happenings in the unitary process, and it is the process, not the
imaginary, supposedly independent agent that we think of as our ‘self’, that brings them
into being and is responsible for them. Hence K said, challenging all traditional forms of
human society: “To see the absurdity of punishment and reward is to see the whole; when
you see the whole there is the operation of intelligence which functions when you behave.”
(Talks in Saanen 1974, pg. 15)
It may seem, though, that if K was right, our situation is hopeless: everything depends
on perceiving life as a unitary process of happenings, which we cannot control because we
are in it; moreover, as that crucial perception would itself be a happening, and therefore
part of the uncontrollable process, there is nothing we can do to bring it about. But I think
the solution is simple. Once we see that there is nothing we can do, we stop trying – and
that is the radical mutation in consciousness.
Francis Ellingham, July 2006
The material limitation of a science of consciousness
It seems to me that Mr. Williams’ terminology in Mind, Brain, and Behaviour (No. 24, pp.
32-33) is somewhat at variance with K’s, and that from this variance flow serious difficulties
of understanding.
K, I think, distinguishes very sharply between thought, including “fear, belief, desire,”
as listed in the article, and that which is not of thought, including “understanding, love,
beauty.” For K, what is derived from thought remains a material process; it may indeed
become measurable by science in the future. But that which is not derived from thought can
never be measured, because it has no material base; it is of a different nature altogether.
That which may manifest “when the brain is completely still,” as Mr. Williams states, is not
generally lumped by K with the contents of consciousness as we know it. In fact, K is almost
allergic to any such undifferentiated usage.
As a more general statement, I think that science, especially psychology, has shown very
little capacity for learning from K, because it cannot get a handle on the unmeasurable. We
can measure insanity, not sanity; disorder, not order; war, not peace; we can measure the
ego, not the state of selflessness. Only if science accepts this basic limitation is there any
hope of going beyond it.
Hermann Janzen, December 2005
Mind and brain
The Link has printed several articles on this topic, some of them reflecting an increasing
tendency in science to see consciousness as the product of material processes alone. For
many people, such an hypothesis is profoundly anti-intuitive and unacceptable. For thousands
of years, if not tens of thousands, there has been a feeling of a spiritual world somehow
beyond the material. We generally share the assumption that we as homo sapiens
enjoy qualities that are independent of the physical organism, as echoed in the belief in
reincarnation or that a soul survives the body in some other way.
Important in this context is that most of us have a very simplified idea of what matter is,
thinking of it as something mechanical, something close to dust with no relation to life and
mind. But isn’t the world of matter much more wondrous than we think? Many scientists,
certainly, would be the first to admit that. Matter very quickly dissolves into strange forms
of energy and the laws of quantum physics are largely beyond our imagination. I am not a
scientist, but I think we should remind ourselves of how little we know and how many
things we ‘know’ incorrectly.
Many would claim that the human mind cannot be the outcome of material processes
only. Yet, do we really know the inherent depth and complexity of matter (and material
processes), or what mind or spirit is, to be so sure of that statement? What if the world is
basically one integrated process – the flower and the seeing of the flower both material
processes – the whole of life and non-life contained in one and the same dimension?
I would say we cannot be sure, nor can we be sure if other ways of explaining the universe
are true or not. Many religions reflect a view that can be described as being basically
two-dimensional: a world of ‘matter’ (including bodies and brains) with which a world of
‘spirit’ interacts, allowing for life and mind. And there are eastern philosophies which see
‘Mind’ as the basic factor, with the world of objects and beings only phenomena in the
unlimited space of this ‘Mind’.
It is in relation to the question of mind and consciousness, which involves our sense of
‘me’, that it seems we harbour our most hidden and strong assumptions.
[On the following page, there is another article on the topic. Independently of what you
may think of its thesis, it is worth reading the list of questions at the end of it.]
Jürgen Brandt, September 2006
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