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Tue, 30 Jun 2009 #1
Thumb_deleted_user_med Randal Shacklett United States 263 posts in this forum ACCOUNT DELETED

In one form or another, isn't that what everyone is looking for?

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Tue, 30 Jun 2009 #2
Thumb_deleted_user_med Eve Goodmon Indonesia 20 posts in this forum ACCOUNT DELETED

Are we? Holding the beggers bowel as K called it? We are programmed to belive that others know more and have the answers, this is part of our conditioning....in the world of experience it is even true. You know English and I don't so you can teach me etc....including other things that experience teaches. You know how to farm and I don't and so you teach me. The question is why we apply the same in our daily living or our daily life....?

Life is relationship

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Tue, 30 Jun 2009 #3
Thumb_deleted_user_med Randal Shacklett United States 263 posts in this forum ACCOUNT DELETED

Eve Goodmon wrote:

Are we? Holding the beggers bowel as K called it? We are programmed to belive that others know more and have the answers, this is part of our conditioning....in the world of experience it is even true. You know English and I don't so you can teach me etc....including other things that experience teaches. You know how to farm and I don't and so you teach me. The question is why we apply the same in our daily living or our daily life....?


You are refering to outside authority as a path. I am simply pointing out what people are seeking.

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Tue, 30 Jun 2009 #4
Thumb_deleted_user_med Eve Goodmon Indonesia 20 posts in this forum ACCOUNT DELETED

I think we are seeking freedom from pain not looking for authority. We look to someone else because we suffer. Because we try to be free of suffering by using drugs, sex, money people and experience. When it all fails, we look for something or someone else to free us from the self where the sit of suffering is.

Life is relationship

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Wed, 01 Jul 2009 #5
Thumb_deleted_user_med Randal Shacklett United States 263 posts in this forum ACCOUNT DELETED

Eve Goodmon wrote:

I think we are seeking freedom from pain not looking for authority. We look to someone else because we suffer. Because we try to be free of suffering by using drugs, sex, money people and experience. When it all fails, we look for something or someone else to free us from the self where the sit of suffering is.


Ok, and so this "self" you mention, as being the site of suffering, is also the way to get "drugs, sex, money"?

Cool, so now how can I get me, one of those "selfs" you been talking about? ;o)
But Eve, my friend, what good does it do you, for me to tell you, in other words, spell out a verbal/intellectual/knowledge/information response, when that mechanism is incabable of transmitting the untransmitable nature of life and living, "NOW", as of course as we all know, can not be re-created.

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Wed, 01 Jul 2009 #6
Thumb_deleted_user_med Eve Goodmon Indonesia 20 posts in this forum ACCOUNT DELETED

Yes of course the self can not communicate it but when intelligence is communicating verbally by using words it can point to another actuality . K communicated verbaly and he pointed out some truths that we need to examine. Doest this mean that his words freed us? No they just pointed to the possiblility of another existance that does not include suffering that is all...we have to do the rest.

Life is relationship

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Thu, 02 Jul 2009 #7
Thumb_deleted_user_med Randal Shacklett United States 263 posts in this forum ACCOUNT DELETED

Eve Goodmon wrote:

Yes of course the self can not communicate it but when intelligence is communicating verbally by using words it can point to another actuality . K communicated verbaly and he pointed out some truths that we need to examine. Doest this mean that his words freed us? No they just pointed to the possiblility of another existance that does not include suffering that is all...we have to do the rest.


Yes, so why don't "we"?

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Thu, 02 Jul 2009 #8
Thumb_deleted_user_med Eve Goodmon Indonesia 20 posts in this forum ACCOUNT DELETED

We do or at least some of us do.....

Life is relationship

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Thu, 02 Jul 2009 #9
Thumb_deleted_user_med Eve Goodmon Indonesia 20 posts in this forum ACCOUNT DELETED

We do or at least some of us do.....

Life is relationship

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Fri, 03 Jul 2009 #10
Thumb_deleted_user_med Randal Shacklett United States 263 posts in this forum ACCOUNT DELETED

Eve Goodmon wrote:

We do or at least some of us do.....


Why do you cling to that hope?

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