Krishnamurti & the Art of Awakening

Krishnamurti Quote of the Day

Group Discussion 11th April, 1948 | Mumbai, India

Question: Are we not always in daily life, if we are intelligent, making a choice?

Krishnamurti: You make a choice only when you do not know what to do. For factual things, you must choose. But, choice in psychological things is when you are confused. You do not choose between pleasure and pain but you pursue pleasure. A mind which is confused and choosing is a dishonest mind, i.e., doing a thing not knowing what it is doing.

Question: Dishonesty implies a standard of morality.

Krishnamurti: No. Choice exists only in matters that are irrelevant or are not clearly seen. Clear perception is honest thinking. As long as there is choice, there is confusion. Do you ever psychologically choose?

Question: Yes; when I want to earn money or when I renounce something.

Krishnamurti: No. You are seeking pleasure whether it comes through earning money or renouncing something. Therefore, there is no choice, psychologically.

I do not see clearly because I am choosing. Psychologically, I pursue pleasure. As long as I am pursuing pleasure and using wrong words, I am deceiving myself - for instance, by saying "I serve the world," "I serve the poor" etc. All this is based on pleasure. I must not deceive myself in any way. I must be very clear in my feelings, thoughts and actions. Then only there can be immediate transformation.

Do you not get what you want if that desire is not lukewarm? You envy Napoleons and Stalins who went ruthlessly and wholeheartedly after what they wanted. Spiritual leaders also have acted likewise, though with kid gloves.

Dishonesty is lack of perception, avoidance of looking at things as they are.

We have now come to this point: Transformation is not a matter of words or explanations; it comes instantaneously when we see things clearly.

When one gives up property or good income, how does one do it? Have you given up anything instantaneously?

Tags: choice, confusion

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