Krishnamurti & the Art of Awakening

David Post - Personal Profile


David Post
David Post
United States
Birthday: July 8
Member since: Tue, 09 Jun 2009, 11:46am
Last visited 3 years ago

Member Statement

Digging into these subjects, fleshing out our individual mind, seeing the global mind, hunting down the thinker, seeing s/he is not separate from all humanity, is after all such fun; there s/he is working away at it, taking care of life?s necessities as well as reinforcing his/her/it?s own existence. There is the window; the view in to our psyche, our self and all the insight, mutation and transformation the mind needs to naturally quiet itself down without any effort whatsoever, originating from that small thing we call curiosity, that simple statement ?I don?t know? followed by our listening. To me, that is what a great conversation is all about; the opportunity to go together into it, to see something common that is occurring inside each of us as we share the ride.

Interests and Recommendations

Books

Infidel by Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Save The Males by Kathleen Parker, Dead Doctors Don't Lie by Dr. Joel D. Wallach & Dr. Ma Lan, God is not Great How Religion Poisons Everything by Christopher Hitchens, The Art of Living by Epictetus/Lebell, The Four Agreements by Don Miguel Ruiz, While Europe Slept How Radical Islam is Destroying the West From Within by Bruce Bawer, Among the Thugs by Bill Buford

Movies

Swamp Tigers, American Splendor,

Music

The Future;Leonard Cohen, JuJu Music;King Sunny Ade, Journey of Dreams;LadysmithBlack Mambazo, Golden Days;Roy Orbison, Nouveau Flamenco;Ottmar Liebert

Other interests

Gardening, Permaculture Landscaping, wildlife habitat, flowers, herbs, vegetables, international travel, Far East, Mayan Archeology, Rocky Mountains, camping, nature,

Interview Answers

If you had to sum up what Krishnamurti is all about in just a few words of your own, what would they be?

The man; clear, concise description of the world outside and the world inside.

The directive; learn to look at yourself without my word interfering.

Learn; the art of listening; the art of seeing; the art of conveying.

The joy; seeing things as they are.

The beauty; living life without [internal] conflict.

View all answers to this question

Do you think it is possible to make Krishnamurti more "practicable" than what he himself seems to have allowed for?

The teaching has to be broken down by our own mind, it can't be made any simpler. Because of compartmentilization the brain often cannot see it self in action. There is no way to make or convince others to do it. There is no way to make our own brain do it. It may be a matter of pure luck or a high level of disgust with the world either inside or outside or both. The key of course is attention that revels the division in action. Division is easily seen in the action of response. The problem is seeing the response. It takes a very quick mind to see the response; usually we are swept along with the response and any idea of observing is gone in an instant. Perhaps the phrase 'awareness is the solution to all our problems' could be emphasized and then go about explaning that awareness is not an accumulative process. It becomes so complicated when we break it all down; lots of words; many descriptions. Maybe the human race is just not ready to do it or it would already be happening. Maybe change Krishnamurti's name to Smith or Bogart or Hanks.

View all answers to this question

How important do you consider group dialogue to be in understanding the more subtle points of Krishnamurti's message?

Group dialogue can be fun when it is actually a dialogue; too often it is the sharing of opinion or what is said is taken as sharing of opinion and the battle begins however subtle. K & B tried to explain what prevents penetration; never concluding or answering the stated question; keeping the inquiry alive. Most of us run quickly towards the answer perhaps seeking a conclusion that will settle things both inside our nervous system and outside to have the best answer. Perhaps if we were tied and gagged, the tape only partially removed at strategic times for only long enough to allow a single cohesive utterance then reapplied we might learn to listen without comment, at least outward comment. Inner comment is another story. Public dialogue usually moves along very quickly due to time restraints and anxious participants. There are often too many dialogists. Perhaps we could divide up in pairs, each participant wired for electric shock, a third party with buttons to press when either participant goes off on his own and two caskets immediately available for instant internment due to electrocution.

View all answers to this question

How do you personally go about exploring the Krishnamurti's teachings (through personal study, dialogues, dvds)?

I am currently using the study guide Choiceless Awareness. I read a bit, sit quietly looking out the window at the beautiful scenery and listen to the next thought as it emerges. I listen for any comment made to that first thought and continue to observe the inner dialogue. I call it dialogue because there is often no concluding, a stream of comment at the end of which is often a period of silence. This reveals to my mind the conclusions my mind has already come to. Doing nothing about it, it continues to reveal its depth. When the urge to get up and do something else occurs I get up and do it.

View all answers to this question

Do you think Krishnamurti was exceptional, or is the transformation he spoke of universally accessible?

Krishnamurti was exceptional in the sense that he could describe endlessly and in great detail both the inward and outward human condition. Perhaps most people could do this if we had similar circumstances and the interest. Being groomed as a saviour may have been the key impetus to coming up with the correct answer and of course the feeling of responsibility. Though most of us may feel that we are the saviour of mankind I doubt we break through that feeling very much.

View all answers to this question

Do you think it advisable to introduce Krishnamurti to people you know? Have you ever done it and if yes, what are your experiences?

That depends. Some love to hear about K and others think the teaching to be utter nonsense, just another Eastern philosophy, that applies to them not us in the West. Many say they like Krishnamurti while they practice Buddhist meditation or some other form of escape or mind control. Some are astounded and say 'I have never heard that said before; I've felt it but never heard it said' when you explain the teaching or the road to awareness. Still others immediately think 'another nut case'. Perhaps the best approach is to give a book away and leave it at that even if doing that feels a bit like a missionary giving away a tract. It seems to me that anyone who is really disgusted with the statis quo either inside or outside eventually finds and reads something written or said by K. Most take it as a philosophy that you can have but that is not actually transformative. Most it seems, do not think the human mind can be transformed through awareness or anything else.

View all answers to this question

Are there any aspects of Krishnamurti's teaching that you find implausible or difficult to accept?

I haven't found any aspect of the teaching to have holes in it. Maybe I am deluded; I am sure several people who know me would say that I am. As I keep looking and listening the depth of the teaching continues to be revealed.

View all answers to this question

Recent Activity

Wednesday, 29 July, 2015

  • Profile Updated profile details

2 Comments

Will Scheerer wrote:
Tue, 15 Jun 2010, 5:07am

David,

I wanted to communicate with with you in answer to your decision about the group, and couldn't find an email address or any other way to get in touch. I agree with your observations about the negative energy, but I have met, within the group, some interesting folks that seem worthwhile cultivating a friendship with. I would urge you to stay with us, as we need intelligent people with curious minds and a good sense of humor. I've met some others who are more positive, and I believe we should hang in there, even if it means splitting off and forming another group, or at least some kind of network of less abrasive and controlling friends. As official host of the Threadgill's South event, I was able to invite Steve to join us, and he did. Founder wasn't involved, and I didn't have to tell her. Can you send me your personal email address?

David Post wrote:
Wed, 16 Jun 2010, 10:03am

Hey Will,

thanks for the note.

You can send me an email to dpost@austin.rr.com