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Samuel Leslie Turner of Folsom, CA.. 95630..

Date of birth 10-31-1980... Place of Birth.. Carmichael, CA...

Sept. 30, 2017

My name is Samuel Leslie Turner. I am 36 years old and live in Folsom, CA. I am not a Trump supporter, Neo-Nazi, right winger or of any political organization or bias. I have put all of my energy, honesty and attention on every level to understanding the teaching and underlying message of J. Krishnamurti. I have been doing this for 20 years. I also happen to be white. J. Krishnamurti has said that a man who was serious would not be of any political party, organization or bias nor would they be part of any system of government, social organization or sociological bias or group thinking. And i feel that is a very basic thing to understand.

I feel that i have understood completely and deeply what it means to be a human being as Krishnamurti has implied. To be whole, to be without the ego, the image making process that one has about oneself. This is not something i throw around casually. I have gone through hell to understand this and how it works. I have put in complete honesty and suffered through every kind of scraping upheaval all the way to the bottom of my being and regardless of words and wordplay i believe this is what is implied in the whole, selfless wisdom Krishnamurti spoke about. I am certain that what i am seeing and what im about to say is the complete, undivided truth.

My life has been totally obliterated by a systematic movement that is taking place in the world. Most of it is sociological but it seems to be orchestrated by wealthy people of Jewish descent and it seems to be at least somewhat deliberate. The civilized world is in such utter corruption and deliberate tyranny from top to bottom that it resembles Marxism (see: http://tibetforever.wordpress.com/2015/10/07/j-.... I believe the white race has been turned on itself and will be genocided. I insist that i do not place bias on myself because i am part of this group, nor do i feel that i am reacting in anything other than a selfless unbiased manner as Krishnamurti spoke of. I believe this is evil just as i believe that Communism, Nazi Germany and many other tyrannical circumstances were evil.

I have been silenced by blatant and deliberate tyranny on sociological levels by workplaces, society, law enforcement and higher government entities. I was a very serious, meager and honest person and the only reason that this happened was because i thought differently and questioned although using great tact, care and awareness of the nature of the corrupt world (far more than most). My life is over. Im basically bound to a house because of what has happened. I realize the utter futility in trying to educate these people or even reason with them. I do not forgive these people, nor do i have the desire to strike back or any urge of violence toward anyone.

I believe that anyone who thought differently than what is enforced would be silenced using violent coercion at the least. This coercion involves illegal activities, flat out lies and the manipulation of corruption and tyranny and it resembles the Marxist fueled take over of the Russian government by the Bolsheviks and the Communards. I believe if this person then continued to disobey this tyranny that they would be killed. I have seen this influence myself and can no longer speak publicly, although i believe an antithesis movement must be orchestrated as implied in the link above. I believe that if someone was known and spoke against this they would be murdered. I believe those people who promote this are beyond stupid and should be ashamed of themselves.

I will die and it isnt a big deal but the message i would like to send others is that it doesnt matter if you die for it, you must be against this as your primary concern. Do not put other concerns ahead of this like most do. Do not be pacified. This is evil, fight it directly with your intelligence and tact but do not put other influences such as greed, puritanism or punishment ahead of that.

This is going to sound weird but that is only because i have devoted alot of my life to sociological issues. The people in the world are frightened. I say this with complete compassion. Their heads are filled with a clamouring fear from incidents which happened in the past regarding poor relationship. This is very common.

They abide almost unyeildingly to a kind of thing which they call order. These people only know how to get along with each other through this so-called order. If someone does otherwise someone else may say they are cheating the system, that they arent leaving their priviledge behind, being politically correct or that they are being racist or that they are a nusciance of some kind.

The sad thing is that this system or this order comes at a price. You are basically lobotomized and have the inward state of someone in a littleral prison. Absolutely wretched. Only living to avoid punishment. I will not do that and i am not beligerent about it. Im very reasonable. But i realize that there is some sort of initiative necessary. Because otherwise this is a narrowing and destructive activity, making a person ever more wound up and frusterated and blaming that on anything they can.

I have been a very well liked, although somewhat misunderstood person. I have also been hated. I have been thrown out of jobs and businesses for nothing more than the reason mentioned above by these people who are very fearful. Where there is fear there is not creativity, happiness, compassion or anything good. I am not resentful or superior to these people. I have great care.

I am not mentally ill nor am i weird. If you met me in person you would not think those things even a little. Although i am kind of small.

I feel that if i was judging someone else in my shoes that they would be far beyond genius level and i have put an enormous amount into understanding these things. And yet here i am, left with nothing but to observe these inhuman machine-like people who are obviously here because they couldnt handle it anywhere else.

I have caused some misunderstandings with these kinds of people which they may not have ever understood. They have all kinds of sanctions and misunderstandings. I persue pleasure and i feel it is the same fundamental issue with anyone else regardless of what type of pleasure. They claim that if you have pleasure outside of this so called order that it is misconduct and i very much disagree. This is something i am very clear about. You must be outside of this system to have initiative which is absolutely and soarly necessary. You also must have desire, that thing which motivates or carries a person on, a better word would be enthusiasm. You must have that and these people dont understand this very deeply. Also to have a sane, healthy mind. Also to have passion in the truest sense of the original meaning of that word, and passion is something very real. The passion that a true artist needs, for example, to be a true artist. This word and its meaning is something that i have put alot into understanding and to these people it means almost nothing.

These people have treated me with great contempt for no reason than what is stated above. But as Krishnamurti stated, it is one of the most important things in life not to be hurt.

That is all i have to say, thank you. Its been a wonderful time, but im off now.

Good-bye.

Here is the complete transcript of the link above: http://pastebin.com/82qm6x87

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Do you think it is possible to make Krishnamurti more "practicable" than what he himself seems to have allowed for?

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How do you strike a balance between healthy doubt and ready acceptance in investigating Krishnamurti's proposals?

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Does the phrase "living the teachings" have any meaning to you?

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Do you ever feel that you have been conditioned by Krishnamurti's teachings?

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How important do you consider group dialogue to be in understanding the more subtle points of Krishnamurti's message?

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If you had to sum up what Krishnamurti is all about in just a few words of your own, what would they be?

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Do you think it advisable to introduce Krishnamurti to people you know? Have you ever done it and if yes, what are your experiences?

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How do you personally go about exploring the Krishnamurti's teachings (through personal study, dialogues, dvds)?

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Has coming into contact with Krishnamurti and his teachings had any perceptible effect on your life and/or relationships?

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What future do you foresee for Krishnamurti's works? Do you think they will grow in importance or will they just gradually die away?

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Do you think Krishnamurti was exceptional, or is the transformation he spoke of universally accessible?

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Can dialogue - in the sense of sincere inquiry - be organized or can it only come about spontaneously, unprompted?

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