Krishnamurti & the Art of Awakening

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Kingston Gilbert
Kingston Gilbert
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My association with the Krishnamurthi kind of 'thinking' goes back to the early 80's, the first book being,'The Krishnamurthi Penguin Reader'. Further due to accelerrated learning and revolution in the then religious world I was involved in, my interest grew as to who the author was, which led me to the Krishnamurthi Foundation, India in Chennai;
Then I was aware of a wider organization in the field of education; opted for the Rajghat School,KFI, Varanasi - had the opportunity on several occasions to attend the talks by Krishnamurthi himself as well as his meeting with the staff ; listened to various discussions, video conferences,retreats and conversations.
Been the restless teacher exploring educational challenges in relation to changing identities, societies and peoples, constantly read and reread Krishnamurthi with the same intensity as he was read by me the first time.
No answers appealing only left with perplexing questions, trying to break the linguistic threading with the realities of daily life, moving from day to day with the best possible clarity for the moment.

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Do you think Krishnamurti was exceptional, or is the transformation he spoke of universally accessible?

Krishnamurthi is exceptionally the transformation that the humanity in oneself has to rediscover and unlearn or relearn; the only transformation that is precise in the process of change, for he does not advocate nor propagate any kind of concept or ideology.
On the other hand he is, as he himself states, 'the mirror' 'the reflection', that is why it is so arduous to be able to absorb the logic or the science of his 'thinking'.

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Do you think it is possible to make Krishnamurti more "practicable" than what he himself seems to have allowed for?

It is the absolute 'practicality' of his explorations which makes one shun or avoid 'the light of truth' and claim that he is 'not practical';
because at the end of the day one comes to the point of regret that the illusions of life had not been worked out long before and the 'wired' state of mind can no longer be freed, then 'it' is no longer practically useful to self or others i.e., for the 'individual'.
It is not possible to make Krishnamurthi more "practical" simply because he is at two points of existential reality at the same time - far ahead in the Armageddon sense or far behind in the Vedic sense; make what 'you' will out of it is the confusion in 'what is'!

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How important do you consider group dialogue to be in understanding the more subtle points of Krishnamurti's message?

Dialogues and conversations are essential and vitally important to the whole process of understanding the more subtle points of Krishnamurthi's message.
The message is as subtle as life and therefore there is no direct verbal 'path' ot it;
only openminded discussions and dialogues would give clues as to what the 'message' points out to or indicate.

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Do you think it advisable to introduce Krishnamurti to people you know? Have you ever done it and if yes, what are your experiences?

It is through ones manner of interactions and relationships as well as passive awareness of the process one goes through that one initiates change in oneself and that further brings about change in others;
Krishnamurthi can be introduced only when the climate has been created for further interest and wherever possible I have given reference to.
I have always been interested in topics discussed and initiated discussions with younger students all through my careeer as a teacher and have introduced Krishnamurthi in many ways than one.

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Are there any aspects of Krishnamurti's teaching that you find implausible or difficult to accept?

A very large area is yet blurred and beyond my horizon but there is also the constant reading and reference work that I have kept going at for very many years; haven't been able to discuss with many or some on the same range of frequency.
It is not merely a matter of acceptance it is more of a range of abilities to perceive.

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If you had to sum up what Krishnamurti is all about in just a few words of your own, what would they be?

Krishnamurthi is a person who, on one hand is 'fully human and fully alive' and on the other, is a 'phenomenon' drawing out the 'individual' from global society.

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How do you personally go about exploring the Krishnamurti's teachings (through personal study, dialogues, dvds)?

Experimentation in what I have studied would be my first approach along with reading and re-reading until the perception reflects a certain clarity; also innitiating open dialogues with students and teachers and people whenever the opportunity arises.

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Has coming into contact with Krishnamurti and his teachings had any perceptible effect on your life and/or relationships?

I would say that it has had a tremendous effect not in an 'experience' sense of the word but in the 'exploration' sense of the word. His teachings have been a reference point in daily life in many ways; considering the challenges I face in the educational world in regard to 'holistic' approaches in personal as well as professional life.
The perceptible effect in my life and relationships is that many a complexed and neurotic approaches of mine in earlier times have become very simple and straight forward; although a lot more is desirable.And that I'm able to share this candidly on an open forum is also very much the effect.

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Do you ever feel that you have been conditioned by Krishnamurti's teachings?

I would say yes and no; simply because I'm aware that conditioning is the state of mind which is intrinsically 'me'. No, because I find myself constantly ruminating over the teachings and working through them.There is the aspect of discovering the 'new' through the teachings and simultaneously the 'old' losing its hold.
A rather slow living and dying combination.

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What future do you foresee for Krishnamurti's works? Do you think they will grow in importance or will they just gradually die away?

Krishnamurthi's works is timeless. It is a capturing of life as it is, in the reality sense;It is highly scientific and 'religious' in pace with and beyond the movement of the technological world; so there will be more and more growing recognition of its importance and relevance in the human consciousness with the passage of 'time'.

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Can dialogue - in the sense of sincere inquiry - be organized or can it only come about spontaneously, unprompted?

The very word dialogue implies a two-way communication, therefore in enquiry, unless openess to spontaniety is there any form of organized dialogue would be futile and serve no purpose.
The listener, the speaker and the choice of words to synchronize in context and meaning is indeed an achievement per se; can that be organized, that is the question?

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Does the phrase "living the teachings" have any meaning to you?

I would say 'discovering the teachings' or 'perceiving the teachings' all around and in oneself, even in those who are not K listeners or readers is more apt to me;herein lies the openess, vastness and freshness in K's teachings.
Living the teachings to me would be too much of the old formula and back to traditional strappings; the feeling of being bound to codes and expectations; again it it the way one interprets it I suppose.

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How do you strike a balance between healthy doubt and ready acceptance in investigating Krishnamurti's proposals?

One has to go with the flow of humanity and not separate oneself as a spectator and stop to introspect.It does not matter where one is stationed in life or what one's education is because in the process of the discovery of existential life the spectrum is vast and it is doubt, in the personal, limited sense, that is one of the common factors of levelling or balancing the mental disposition in my daily life.
There is the 'ebb and flow' K refers to and the 'outer and inner' and for me I would say that the 'doubt' factor is more of a "personal conditioning liberator" in the face of accumulated mankinds' common memory thought processes already there from time immemorial of which I am.

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